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Sep 28, 2013, 05:41 AM
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Hyperbole which is another term for...
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Sep 28, 2013, 05:50 AM
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Hello again, tom:
I guess it doesn't bother you at all that the emperor is willing to get on the horn and talk to the "moderate " President of Iran ,but has not done any negotiating with Capitol Hill at all over this so called impending fiscal crisis ?
What particular part of democracy do you NOT understand?? The bill was PASSED into law. Any negotiations should have occurred then. If you didn't have a majority to WARRANT being negotiated WITH, you should have won a few more races.
So, the bill was passed into law. The Supreme Court said it was Constitutional. That's how our system is designed to work, and that's what happened. Therefore, according to OUR system of government, there's NO negotiations available.
Now, you can SNIVEL, and you can SQUEAL, but Obamacare is LAW!!
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Sep 28, 2013, 05:59 AM
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Bs .the law has been modified by decree many times already ,even after the SCOTUS decision . The most recent one was the emperor deciding on his own that Congress had a subsidy that was not written into the law. Is that fair? I don't think so. At the very least, that subsidy should have passed by Congress, the legislative body the last time that I read the US Constitution.
Did the "law of the land" include that when it was presented to The Supreme Court? No, it was added by executive decree, along with all of the waivers.
The left cracks me up . How many times have they worked to amend and change laws they don't agree with ? But any law they approve of is somehow codified on stone tablets for all time . It don't work that way and you know it .
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Sep 28, 2013, 08:08 AM
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The left cracks me up . How many times have they worked to amend and change laws they don't agree with ? But any law they approve of is somehow codified on stone tablets for all time . It don't work that way and you know it .
You are right Tom, anything this president and congress (or a mayor) does is subject to change in the next election. That is the way it works. Nothing is written in stone.
That makes your argument MOOT.
What you think I didn't beeyatch through Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes? Yeah I did, for all the good it did. Enjoy your turn at beeyatching.
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Sep 29, 2013, 02:27 AM
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Nahh ;your side did much more than "beeyatching. " . They actively promoted and crafted legislation... working to change laws they didn't like and stalling agendas of the President. That is what opposition parties do, You just think it's strange that we don't all goose step at the emperor's command .
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Oct 1, 2013, 05:21 AM
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Hello again,
Many of our competitors are burdened with having to pay for their employees health care. So, if our employers no longer have to pay for health care, wouldn't that make them more competitive on the world markets?
Why isn't that a good thing?
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Oct 1, 2013, 05:25 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again,
Many of our competitors are burdened with having to pay for their employees health care. So, if our employers no longer have to pay for health care, wouldn't that make them more competitive on the world markets?
Why isn't that a good thing?
excon
DO you think its free? Who exactly do you think pays for it?
And exactly where has the government proven to be efficient at anything... besides wasting money?
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Oct 1, 2013, 06:16 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again,
Many of our competitors are burdened with having to pay for their employees health care. So, if our employers no longer have to pay for health care, wouldn't that make them more competitive on the world markets?
Why isn't that a good thing?
excon
It is a good thing ex, those slave workers in Bangladesh that have taken the exported jobs don't get health coverage. If you want to be competitive you have to stop the B/S and stop paying yourselves too much. You also have to get a different system because the one you have is proving unsustainable. The question becomes how many of your workers contribute to export industries, you might find it is a surprisingly small percentage so why should you sacrifice a benefit for improving the lot of a few. You shot yourself in the foot when you let your industries go offshore, so now you need new industries and forget the old. We had to do it, you have to do it.
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Oct 1, 2013, 06:23 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again,
Many of our competitors are burdened with having to pay for their employees health care. So, if our employers no longer have to pay for health care, wouldn't that make them more competitive on the world markets?
Why isn't that a good thing?
excon
What, you're excusing greedy corporations for dumping employees on the exchanges? Those heartless b@stards.
Btw, told my son this morning he would have to get insurance or pay a fine, he wasn't happy. He's really not going to be happy when his $95 penalty jumps to $695 a couple of years from now. For a family of four that penalty can be $2,085. And in 10 years the CBO estimates that 31 million people will still be without insurance, so yeah, Obamacare is AWESOME!
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Oct 1, 2013, 06:30 AM
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If he has his own computer he can shop on line. Today. He has until April to actually buy something.
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Oct 1, 2013, 06:38 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
If he has his own computer he can shop on line. Today. He has until April to actually buy something.
You don't get it, he doesn't want to buy insurance and now he has to or get fined. What, you really think everyone just can't wait for Zerocare to kick in?
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Oct 1, 2013, 06:52 AM
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Then give him 95 bucks and hope he doesn't get into an accident. What's the big deal? Obey the law or don't. Lots of things I don't like, but have to obey the law. So do you.
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Oct 1, 2013, 07:06 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Then give him 95 bucks and hope he doesn't get into an accident. What's the big deal? Obey the law or don't. Lots of things I don't like, but have to obey the law. So do you.
More of your "live and let live" motto in action.
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Oct 1, 2013, 07:12 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Then give him 95 bucks and hope he doesn't get into an accident. What's the big deal? Obey the law or don't. Lots of things I don't like, but have to obey the law. So do you.
I am hearing that the software isn't working... what the emperor calls "glitches " .
President Obama: Expect months of 'glitches' - POLITICO.com
The exchange software, which costs taxpayers $88 million, still can’t correctly calculate the amount of subsidies that an individual applicant is eligible for. I think Speech's son should apply for the max subsidy.. He may get his health care for free .
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Oct 1, 2013, 07:50 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
More of your "live and let live" motto in action.
Do I really have to add within the law to every post, opinion, or comment?
 Originally Posted by tomder55
I am hearing that the software aint working ....what the emperor calls "glitches " .
President Obama: Expect months of 'glitches' - POLITICO.com
The exchange software, which costs taxpayers $88 million, still can’t correctly calculate the amount of subsidies that an individual applicant is eligible for. I think Speech's son should apply for the max subsidy .. He may get his health care for free .
Every new app/technology has glitches to work out, challenging yes, doable of course. Ask Microsoft or Apple. And then we have a learning curve to learn how to use it, and the people will judge so stop crying. But I guess we can expect hollering from the right over everything after one day. I mean you have been hollering for 5 years already about everything.
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Oct 1, 2013, 08:21 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Do I really have to add within the law to every post, opinion, or comment?
Sure, it sounds better than "nyah, nyah, get over it bucko, we won."
Every new app/technology has glitches to work out, challenging yes, doable of course. Ask Microsoft or Apple. And then we have a learning curve to learn how to use it, and the people will judge so stop crying. But I guess we can expect hollering from the right over everything after one day. I mean you have been hollering for 5 years already about everything.
Dude, they had all these years to be ready and rolled out Microsoft Bob.
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Oct 1, 2013, 09:08 AM
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Oct 1, 2013, 09:37 AM
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Oct 1, 2013, 09:40 AM
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Oct 1, 2013, 09:52 AM
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Smoothy sure does epitomize the right-wingers.
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