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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:11 PM
    So I tasted a Substance...
    I was doing homework at school and was chewing on the back of my pen when I noticed a funny taste. I can't say specifically what it was but I know it was a drug. It had to have been from before I went to jail and was sowing wild oats. Im assuming it was cocaine. I haven't been using or anything like that but I am on probation. So, cutting to the chase, I had a drug test around 10pm on Friday. I tasted the stuff around 11am on the previous WED... Im wigging out. I have a meeting with my PO at the end of this week and I am afraid he is going to say I have tested positive for this mystery substance. It was appx 2.5 days from taste to test. Do you think I will be OK? My tests are NOT dipsticks and are sent to a Lab in Utah. It was either Coke or Oxy... that's all I was doing before I went to jail.. I know my PO won't believe me if I told him what really happened. I guess I am just preparing myself for whatever Friday has in store for me before I end up going... If you have any knowledge on something like this, get at me.
    One Love and Respect,
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:19 PM
    I'm sorry, but you will most likely test positive in that time frame.
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I'm sorry, but you will most likely test positive in that time frame.
    You think so? After a single taste? I washed my mouth out with coffee (the closest drink to me at the time) right away... Shoot... I have so much on the line. I hope for my sake you are wrong :/
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:27 PM
    Why would a drug be on your pen?

    You would have swallowed some of it, and the mucous in your mouth would have absorbed some of it.
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:28 PM
    I hope for your sake I'm wrong as well. However, the mouth is made of mucous membranes and that is one of the easiest routes to the bloodstream. Almost instantaneously.
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Why would a drug be on your pen?
    From doing drugs before I went to jail... I was in jail from September 12 to February 13... I knew I was going so I was partying a lot. Its been 7 months since I have been out and more than a year+ since I have used. The pen was in my backpack... Read the full post before you reply??
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by nerdydirty View Post
    from doing drugs before I went to jail... I was in jail from september 12 to february 13... I knew I was going so I was partying a lot. Its been 7 months since I have been out and more than a year+ since I have used. The pen was in my backpack.... Read the full post before you reply???
    I DID read the entire post and am still mystified.
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I hope for your sake I'm wrong as well. However, the mouth is made of mucous membranes and that is one of the easiest routes to the bloodstream. Almost instantaneously.
    Do you know if there is a relationship between the amount of a drug ingested or absorbed relative to the detection time frame?
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:36 PM
    Detection after absorption by mucous membrans can be almost instant as it would be with IV drugs. It could be a little less than a few hours after ingestion via this manner and take upwards of several days before it is removed.
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I DID read the entire post and am still mystified.
    Is the reasoning comprehensive now? The reason wouldn't matter to my PO. He wouldn't believe it... Im just curious to if that is enough to be detected.
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Detection after absorption by mucous membrans can be almost instant as it would be with IV drugs. It could be a little less than a few hours after ingestion via this manner and take upwards of several days before it is removed.
    Hmmm... well I guess all I can say is I will get back to you Friday night.. If I am not in jail
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:38 PM
    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Good luck.
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    Sep 22, 2013, 08:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Good luck.
    :) thanks for the moral support.
    I'll keep you posted
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    Sep 23, 2013, 03:05 AM
    Mystifying and implausible, but possible, if as he says the pen is one he had from last year, and someone used it to dip into drugs. He knows the PO won't believe it so why would he make it up?
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    Sep 23, 2013, 12:39 PM
    I did use it for drugs. Over a year ago though. It was just in my backpack since then. I then used it to do homework 2 weeks ago, and have a nasty habbit of chewing on the back of my pens while I am reading. There is no reason I would try to lie to unidentified people on a thread. There would be no point. If that were the case, I would say "I did some drugs and I took a UA 2.5 days later". I posted this to see if anyone thinks that such a minuscule amount would show up 2.5 days later in a UA...

    But I did talk to my PO today, and he mentioned nothing of the sort. The results would have been in by now so I am assuming I am in the clear.
    *Although when you ASSUME, You make and out of U and ME. So I won't get my hopes up until I know the absolute.

    *Hoping for the Best, Expecting the Worse*

    I will keep you all posted
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    Sep 23, 2013, 12:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by nerdydirty View Post
    I did use it for drugs. Over a year ago though. It was just in my backpack since then. I then used it to do homework 2 weeks ago, and have a nasty habbit of chewing on the back of my pens while I am reading. There is no reason I would try to lie to unidentified people on a thread. There would be no point. If that were the case, I would say "I did some drugs and I took a UA 2.5 days later". I posted this to see if anyone thinks that such a miniscule amount would show up 2.5 days later in a UA...

    But I did talk to my PO today, and he mentioned nothing of the sort. The results would have been in by now so I am assuming I am in the clear.
    *Although when you ASSUME, You make and out of U and ME. So I wont get my hopes up until I know the absolute.

    *Hoping for the Best, Expecting the Worse*

    I will keep you all posted
    A$$, guess that part got censored
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    Sep 23, 2013, 04:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by nerdydirty View Post
    A$$, guess that part got censored
    You can use colors other than black to get past the censor.
    Unless he sees this and changes it.
    Oops, he did.
    Never mind.
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    Sep 23, 2013, 08:22 PM
    I got to thinking over the night... There is a chance that the potency of the drug decreased to an undetectable limit over the past year.
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    Sep 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I got to thinking over the night... There is a chance that the potency of the drug decreased to an undetectable limit over the past year.
    The actual Residue that was in the pen could have DECREASED?
    That would be great if that were the case.
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    I'm not sure, but I am freaking out a little. He talked to me yesterday and didn't say anything about a dirty UA; but today I was called for a THIRD random drug test. Im only supposed to be on two. I guess it is "RANDOM" for a reason. Maybe I am just pyching myself out.
    Only time will tell I guess.
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    Sep 24, 2013, 01:16 PM
    I'm not saying the residue decreased. Possibly the potency of the drug decreased.

    Doesn't sound good though. Keep me posted.

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