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    #421

    Sep 12, 2013, 06:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Cry Havoc and let loose the Dogs of the right wing echo chamber.




    Clearly you are to close to the crap pile of republican vacuum chamber to feel the winds of change. But if water cooler third party gossip is your reality, have at it.

    But you can vote for Putin as a RIGHT in candidate in 2014, or 2016, or both.



    You voted for Putin already huh?

    I'm too close to it? You support Obamacare and think most people do when in fact an overwhelming majority doesn't by most polls... and its negative numbers are growing... even among democrats.
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    Sep 12, 2013, 06:45 PM
    How well did your polls work for Romney? He listened to the right wing lie machine too. But I digress, and as a simple fact, like Medicare, Social Security, Obama Care will be rolled out successfully and plug the holes in the safety net for the lower incomed financially challenged amongst us, and you and Ted Cruz and his hero Jessie Helms can do NOTHING!!

    Get with the program and quit squealing 'cause there ain't going to be no repealing!!
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    #423

    Sep 12, 2013, 06:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    How well did your polls work for Romney? He listened to the right wing lie machine too. But I digress, and as a simple fact, like Medicare, Social Security, Obama Care will be rolled out successfully and plug the holes in the safety net for the lower incomed financially challenged amongst us, and you and Ted Cruz and his hero Jessie Helms can do NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!

    Get with the program and quit squealing 'cause there ain't gonna be no repealing!!!!!!!!
    Rant all you want... it doesn't change the fact Obama has ruined this country... for everyone... there are fewer people actually working today than 5 years ago.. despite a larger population...

    Where is this recovery you guys claim is happening... why are there fewer people in the work force every month?


    And never mind the fact not even a majority of DEMOCRATS want or like Obamacare...


    Which of you wants to be called "Baghdad Bob"?
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    #424

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:06 PM
    Nice Rant yourself. :D. Okay I concede you are much better at ranting than I am :) But you probably know that already.
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    #425

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:28 PM
    How easily you are diverted to domestic issues, can't keep the international ball in play and this is why you have ignored Syria for two years until it became convenient to divert attention from domestic issues and run Syria strike up the flagpole. What I see is no one salutes it but it has been useful in forcing an outcome, so maybe BO deserves that Peace Prize after all, perish the thought
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    #426

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    How easily you are diverted to domestic issues, can't keep the international ball in play and this is why you have ignored Syria for two years until it became convenient to divert attention from domestic issues and run Syria strike up the flagpole. What I see is no one salutes it but it has been useful in forcing an outcome, so maybe BO deserves that Peace Prize afterall, perish the thought
    Naw... he didn't deserve it then... and he doesn't deserve it now. And he is so mind numbingly incompetent along with everyone in his administration, no way can they even bumble into anything in the future.
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    #427

    Sep 12, 2013, 10:06 PM
    Well he may be a stumblebum but he has strange bedfellows, Putin has stumbled his way into importance using BO as a foil
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    #428

    Sep 13, 2013, 04:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    well he may be a stumblebum but he has strange bedfellows, Putin has stumbled his way into importance using BO as a foil
    I don't think Putin stumbeled into it... Kerry blurted something out... was chastised by everyone else for it... Putin saw the fumble grabbed the ball and ran into the end zone. (Football analogy) and scored a touchdown.


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    #429

    Sep 13, 2013, 05:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    well he may be a stumblebum but he has strange bedfellows, Putin has stumbled his way into importance using BO as a foil
    The majority of Americans do not want to intervene in a conflict where we find no good guys to support. However ,I'm not about to take it seriously when a creating like Vladdy Putin attempts to lecture us about the use of "brute force" or of "international law"... Maybe others forget ,but I clearly remember his solution to Chechnya. Here is an image of Grozny for those who forget .



    Russia's destruction of Grozny - YouTube

    So he can spare me the lectures .
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    #430

    Sep 13, 2013, 05:07 AM
    And he is so mind numbingly incompetent along with everyone in his administration

    This is what the emperor's supporter Joe Klein wrote :
    He willingly jumped into a bear trap of his own creation. In the process, he has damaged his presidency and weakened the nation's standing in the world. It has been one of the more stunning and inexplicable displays of presidential incompetence that I've ever witnessed
    Obama and Syria: Stumbling Toward Damascus | TIME.com
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    #431

    Sep 13, 2013, 05:10 AM
    Hello again,

    Let me see.. We were about to start BOMBING the Syrians over their use of chemical weapons... Now, we're NOT going to bomb them, and they're NOT going to use their chemical weapons any more...

    Now, you may call that incompetence, but I call it a VICTORY.

    excon
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    #432

    Sep 13, 2013, 05:27 AM
    What this did was hand victory to Assad on a silver platter . I thought you wanted him gone. Have you not noticed that he again has unleashed his air assets against the rebels and the civilian areas the rebels control ? The emperor didn't win .This is not victory . All it is is a cover for the emperor to vote present .
    Like smoothy said ;Putin has picked up his football. Now he is escorting the US out of the ME . He has also single-handidly obstructed any negotiated settlement to the civil war by blocking one initiative after another in the UNSC .
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    #433

    Sep 13, 2013, 05:34 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    I wouldn't expect you or your pal smoothy to give this president ANY credit for ANYTHING... That changes NOTHING about the tremendous VICTORY he just achieved.

    And, I don't care if he backed into it or not..

    excon
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    Sep 13, 2013, 05:35 AM
    Ex, the emperor got played and now Assad and Putin have the upper hand. This was no victory.
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    #435

    Sep 13, 2013, 05:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Lemme see.. We were about to start BOMBING the Syrians over their use of chemical weapons... Now, we're NOT going to bomb them, and they're NOT going to use their chemical weapons any more...

    Now, you may call that incompetence, but I call it a VICTORY.

    excon
    Yes Ex it is an piric victory, but it hasn't done anything for the Syrians, diplomacy, albeit gunboat diplomacy, has won the day, BO has another plaudit for his memiois and he can sink slowly into the sunset knowing he has done something, but the great circle moves on and Kerry looks like a candidate again, even if he has a foot in his mouth, you and I both know what was lost here and in my book loss doesn't equal victory, this is not Mission Accomplished
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    #436

    Sep 13, 2013, 06:32 AM
    He got what he went after, stopping Assad from using chemical weapons. He also got the UN involved in a bigger way. Didn't fire a shot, or send any troops. Not good enough for you guys though.
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    #437

    Sep 13, 2013, 06:34 AM
    Oh the lefties are trying to pretend the administrations was always on board with Kerrys off the cuff comment.

    There is ample video of them saying the opposite.

    John Kerry under fire for 'unbelievably small' comment - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com
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    #438

    Sep 13, 2013, 06:40 AM
    Sometimes you take the lucky breaks and get good results. Wouldn't you?
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    #439

    Sep 13, 2013, 06:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Sometimes you take the lucky breaks and get good results. Wouldn't you?
    Then should just admit it instead of lie and try to cover up things... which is standard practice for this corrupt administration.
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    #440

    Sep 13, 2013, 07:08 AM
    Righty's never admit to being wrong, so why would you expect anyone else to? Especially since the president is wrong on everything in your eyes.

    Is their anything you guys won't squeal about?

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