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    Sep 8, 2013, 06:34 AM
    The Virginia governors race has come to this. Supporters of the Clinton approved candidate are impersonating the opponent.

    Was that Cuccinelli at aquarium? Tale sounds fishy | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

    By Julian Walker
    The Virginian-Pilot
    © September 6, 2013

    The guy with the salt-and-pepper hair introducing himself to voters at the Virginia Aquarium & Marine Science Center wasn’t Ken Cuccinelli.

    It just sort of looked like him.

    An impostor posing as the Republican attorney general and candidate for governor briefly visited the aquarium over the weekend before employees got wise and called police.

    Aside from the iffy resemblance, another clue that gave him away was the presence of an anti-Cuccinelli mobile billboard.

    The fake Cuccinelli appearance and the billboard were sponsored by NextGen Climate Action Committee, a super PAC largely funded by a wealthy California environmentalist. NextGen has spent close to $1 million on a pair of Virginia-specific ads attacking Cuccinelli that have been televised here in the past month.
    It gets even more childish than that... rumor has it Cuccinelli cheered for BYU over Virginia.

    An affiliated group also hired an airplane to fly a banner claiming Cuccinelli supported Brigham Young University over the University of Virginia football stadium as the teams played last weekend.

    On Saturday, aquarium staffers realized something was amiss when someone noticed what appeared to be prosthetics glued to the face of the actor playing Cuccinelli. Police detained the impersonator and a few associates for questioning before they were released without charges.

    Virginia Beach Deputy Commonwealth’s Attorney Colin Stolle said police brought the issue to the attention of prosecutors who “agreed with their decision there just wasn’t a crime here.”
    How low can they go?
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    Sep 8, 2013, 06:36 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    How low can they go?
    Well, they COULD pass laws that prevent white people from voting... But, that's what YOUR party does..

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    Sep 8, 2013, 06:45 AM
    I guess you missed where voter ID increased minority turnout. And that has nothing to do with the campaign.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 07:11 AM
    That's because you pissed people off by making it harder to vote.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 07:18 AM
    The irony, its harder to vote so more people did so.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 07:35 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    The irony, its harder to vote so more people did so.
    Like the drug war, you'll have to crack down a little harder. And, I have no doubt you will.

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    Sep 8, 2013, 07:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    Like the drug war, you'll have to crack down a little harder. And, I have no doubt you will.

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    Exactly what will our next step be, bring back literacy tests?
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    Sep 8, 2013, 07:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The irony, its harder to vote so more people did so.
    But that wasn't your intention, your own lawmakers and party leaders said it was to shave the votes of minorities, so you guys could win, on the state and local level. Why else would they try to move voting places in NC, Elizabeth City, to be specific from a largely minority college campus, to a small building with no sidewalks, bus service, or adequate parking lot, and combine three precincts into one precinct with it. Instead of serving 1,500 people, they want it to serve 9,000 voters on one day!!

    Voter integrity my arse, you really think people are that dumb to see the REAL goal?
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    Sep 8, 2013, 07:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Exactly what will our next step be, bring back literacy tests?
    How about early voting? And Sunday voting. Hell electronic voting from home. IP addresses are ID's you know.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 08:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    How about early voting? And Sunday voting. Hell electronic voting from home. IP addresses are ID's ya know.
    First, I am happy that voter ID increased minority turnout and prevented fraud. That's all I asked for was to lessen the probability of MY vote being canceled by fraud

    Second, an IP address doesn't tell you who might have used the device.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 09:53 AM
    I can dig a fair election, but we have to pause when its stated by those hollering fraud that the intent was to shave votes, and that's cheating and not fair. But you don't care because all you care about is FRAUD, and not CHEATING... Really dude??

    IP verification is NOT that hard and used in business especially retail, successfully already. Its an APP than be tweaked EASILY for voting registration, and voting. Heck its already in use for voter registration in most states including TEXAS.

    TX Electronic Voter Registration Reform - WatchdogWire - Texas

    Electronic (or Online) Voter Registration

    UPDATE: Governor Pat Quinn, of Illinois, has signed an online voter registration bill, bringing to 18 the number of states with laws providing for paperless online voter registation. Governors in Virginia and West Virginia also signed online registration bills in 2013. And in New Mexico, Governor Susana Martinez signed HB 497, permitting voters to update existing registration records electronically, and HB 225, clarifying that voter registration in the Motor Vehicle Division offices or field offices will be conducted so that the applicant completes the full certificate of registration electronically and that the digital signature to affix to the certificate of registration will be in conformance with the Electronic Authentication of Documents Act (EADA) and the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act (UETA).

    Overview

    Arizona was the innovator when it comes to paperless registration, having implemented its system in 2002. Washington followed with authorizing legislation in 2007 and implementation in 2008. As of August 2013, a total of 12 states offer online registration, and another six states have passed legislation but have yet to implement their online voter registration systems. Four states presently offer limited online voter registration. See the table below for details on all of these states.

    Voter signatures are a critical element of any voter registration system. Signature matching is used in a variety of ways, including voter check-in at polling places as well as signatures on absentee ballot applications and security envelopes containing voted absentee ballot. Most of the states utilizing paperless online voter registration rely on digitized signatures already on file with divisions of motor vehicles to capture a voter's signature.

    Of course, security for online voter registration issues is an essential element of system design. Read this interview with cybersecurity expert, J. Alex Halderman, as he talks about security for online registration.
    For a guy with a Galaxy IPad, and I bet you have all the apps, and has good computer skills, you don't sound very progressive sometimes.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 10:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I can dig a fair election, but we have to pause when its stated by those hollering fraud that the intent was to shave votes, and that's cheating and not fair. But you don't care because all you care about is FRAUD, and not CHEATING.............................Really dude???

    IP verification is NOT that hard and used in business especially retail, successfully already. Its an APP than be tweaked EASILY for voting registration, and voting. Heck its already in use for voter registration in most states including TEXAS.

    TX Electronic Voter Registration Reform - WatchdogWire - Texas

    Electronic (or Online) Voter Registration



    For a guy with a Galaxy IPad, and I bet you have all the apps, and has good computer skills, you don't sound very progressive sometimes.
    Cheating, fraud, any type of illegal voting is what I want stopped and I'm not opposed to online voting, just saying an IP address does not say so used the machine. And Samsung makes the Galaxy, Apple makes iPads. Dude.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 11:01 AM
    Sorry grandson wasn't available for consultation, but how can you get past what your guys are saying was THEIR INTENT for voter ID laws?
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    Sep 8, 2013, 11:57 AM
    Why shouldn't a real ID be required to vote... only citizens have the right to vote...

    The so-called people "too poor" to get an ID... somehow have ID's to file for and collect welfare and other handouts. ALL of which require ID's.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 01:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Why shouldn't a real ID be required to vote...only citizens have the right to vote....

    The so-called people "too poor" to get an ID...somehow have ID's to file for and collect welfare and other handouts. ALL of which require ID's.
    Why do we need NEW ID's just for voting, when we already have ID's to live in the lives we have already? Why? Because you wingers want to throw obstacles in the way of the people you know will vote for anybody but you. (even when its well documented that you guys committed the most egregious frauds the last election cycle)

    Republican officials and leaders have said so. But no winger has ever commented on that issue at all. Thanks for making the case.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 02:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Why do we need NEW ID's just for voting, when we already have ID's to live in the lives we have already? Why? Because you wingers want to throw obstacles in the way of the people you know will vote for anybody but you. (even when its well documented that you guys committed the most egregious frauds the last election cycle)

    Republican officials and leaders have said so. But no winger has ever commented on that issue at all. Thanks for making the case.
    You can vote with the same ID's you use to apply for and collect welfare... so the excuse the lefties have been using about keeping people from voting is total and complete Bovine Excrement.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 03:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Sorry grandson wasn't available for consultation, but how can you get past what your guys are saying was THEIR INTENT for voter ID laws?
    What is the intent for Obamacare? Environmental regulations? Immigration reform? Don't b*tch at us about intent, democrats have been lying to us about intent for as long as I can remember.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 04:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    You can vote with the same ID's you use to apply for and collect welfare......so the excuse the lefties have been using about keeping people from voting is total and complete Bovine Excrement.
    Are you that dense, you guys make laws that you can't use the ID you have, you have to run out and get a NEW one at a state office with a camera.

    But it's a non issue, or will be for the next election, unless you guys pull another trick to prevent fraud.
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    Sep 8, 2013, 05:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Are you that dense, you guys make laws that you can't use the ID you have, you have to run out and get a NEW one at a state office with a camera.

    But it's a non issue, or will be for the next election, unless you guys pull another trick to prevent fraud.
    You have to excuse me if I don't take the word of anyone that voted for Obama at face value... For the most part they tend to be fact challenged.

    The only place that should be happening is states that Issue Drivers licenses or State ID cards to illegals... rendering them useless as proof someone is legally a citizen. And its only lefty states that even WANT to do that. SO dump that on those states because its those actions that will render certain forms of ID worthless.
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    Sep 9, 2013, 06:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    You have to excuse me if I don't take the word of anyone that voted for Obama at face value....For the most part they tend to be fact challenged.

    The only place that should be happening is states that Issue Drivers licenses or State ID cards to illegals....rendering them useless as proof someone is legally a citizen. And its only lefty states that even WANT to do that. SO dump that on those states because its those actions that will render certain forms of ID worthless.
    Hey you should be happy someone wants to vote

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