[Tuttyd]

like I care about international standards.. the real question is ,do international universities measure up to our standards ? It is not the government's business to grade universities. But Henniger does make a valid point. These universities accept government handouts and then are surprised when there are strings attached. But a private university can rightly tell his to shove his rating where the sun don't shine.

I think it is obvious that the author of the article doesn't care for national standards. In this particular instance I think that the proposal is a bad one for many reasons. I also suspect the author would probably rejects international standards as well.

I don't think we can write an article complaining about some type of federal implication of standards and take the opportunity to complain about falling standards in schools.

Considering the size of our nation our universities are up to your standards.

[paraclete]

Of course international universities meet and exceed your standards. You have some good universities, so do others and we have come to expect you think you are superior in all respects, the master race. But you can't have a failing school system and expect your standards to be maintained, too many sporting scholarships and too little academic achievement

[tomder55]

In the fields of the hard sciences ,mathematics ,engineering ,computing etc there are more internatonal students graduating from American universities than American students . International students make up 70 percent of the full-time electrical engineering graduate students in the United States, 63 percent of those in computer science, and more than half in industrial engineering, economics, chemical engineering, materials engineering and mechanical engineering.
Yes that is part an indictment of the failed liberal public education system here ,but it also demonstrates the high standards and reputations of the American university system... a system that the idiot emperor wants to tinker with .

[talaniman]

I don't think getting potential students to be more aware and informed of the options and opportunities they have and a tool to make a choice is tinkering with the system. They are the ones getting in debt for an education and future employment.

I would think you would be in favor of weeding out the schools that get federal dollars but don't prepare these young people for future employment which is the point of passing all that money around.

More bang for your buck is what a capitalist would say right? Facts beyond the brochures, marketing, and staged tours. I see it affecting the online and community colleges more than well funded bigger universities.

[speechlesstx]

The federal government tinkering with our colleges and universities? What could go wrong?

[talaniman]

Would you let your kid enroll in an on line class because of a commercial that runs all day and night without looking deeper into it? Get in debt because of it? How would you check them out?

The onus and responsibility is on the consumer, not the government. That would be you. Are you against consumer protection?

[tomder55]

It is easy to check out colleges . I don't need the gvt to do it for me.

[speechlesstx]

Would you let your kid enroll in an on line class because of a commercial that runs all day and night without looking deeper into it? Get in debt because of it? How would you check them out?

The onus and responsibility is on the consumer, not the government. That would be you. Are you against consumer protection?

Like how they vet non-profits in the IRS? I'm always amazed at your confidence in government.

[talaniman]

It's MY government!! I voted, yes I have ID.

[speechlesstx]

Good for you, most of us don't share your enthusiasm and for good reason.

[paraclete]

in the fields of the hard sciences ,mathematics ,engineering ,computing etc there are more internatonal students graduating from American universities than American students . International students make up 70 percent of the full-time electrical engineering graduate students in the United States, 63 percent of those in computer science, and more than half in industrial engineering, economics, chemical engineering, materials engineering and mechanical engineering.
Yes that is part an indictment of the failed liberal public education system here ,but it also demonstrates the high standards and reputations of the American university system..... a system that the idiot emperor wants to tinker with .

Tom we all make good money training the students of the world, without these students there would be less of these universities

[talaniman]

it is easy to check out colleges . I don't need the gvt to do it for me.

Not every one is as skilled and experienced as you Tom, and I don't know how easy it is to get certification and affiliation information from some of these online schools that have popped up the last few years, and as Clete says the profit are enormous.

[talaniman]

Like how they vet non-profits in the IRS? I'm always amazed at your confidence in government.

You are way behind on that subject.

[speechlesstx]

You are way behind on that subject.

Obviously the analogy went over your head.

[paraclete]

Not every one is as skilled and experienced as you Tom, and I don't know how easy it is to get certification and affiliation information from some of these online schools that have popped up the last few years, and as Clete says the profit are enormous.

That's the shonky fringe schools, Tal, but mainline universities have a large percentage of overseas students

[speechlesstx]

Here we go again...

Father of molested student talks about his outrage toward seven teachers who supported the rapist

I'll spare you the horrific details here, but at least the judge got it right this time in spite of the teachers and board member pleading for leniency for this pervert.

Neal has pled (sic) guilty for his one criminal offense but he is not a predator,” teacher Harriett Coe wrote, according to the Herald. “This was an isolated incident. He understands the severity of his action and is sincere in his desire to make amends. He has been candid and conveyed his action to his family, friends and co-workers.”

In all, 10 people, including seven WB-RC teachers, submitted letters of support for Erickson, most pleading for a reduced sentence. They included Campbell, Amy Eagan, Coe, Toni Erickson, Carol Rau, Marilyn Glover, Sandi Lee, Kathryn Weber, Kathleen Sheel and Kathleen Palmer, the Herald reports.

Judge Michael Bumgartner told Erickson he was “appalled and ashamed that the community could rally around, in this case, you,” according to the Herald.

“What you did was a jab in the eye with a sharp stick to every parent who trusts a teacher,” he said shortly before sentencing Erickson to 15-30 years in prison.

Absolutely right, judge.

[talaniman]

The system worked, that's great ain't it?

[speechlesstx]

The judicial system worked, the education system did not.

[speechlesstx]

From the WaPo editors...

Justice Department bids to trap poor, black children in ineffective schools

NINE OF 10 Louisiana children who receive vouchers to attend private schools are black. All are poor and, if not for the state assistance, would be consigned to low-performing or failing schools with little chance of learning the skills they will need to succeed as adults. So it’s bewildering, if not downright perverse, for the Obama administration to use the banner of civil rights to bring a misguided suit that would block these disadvantaged students from getting the better educational opportunities they are due.

The Justice Department has petitioned a U.S. District Courtto bar Louisiana from awarding vouchers for the 2014-15 school year to students in public school systems that are under federal desegregation orders, unless the vouchers are first approved by a federal judge. The government argues that allowing students to leave their public schools for vouchered private schools threatens to disrupt the desegregation of school systems. A hearing is tentatively set for Sept. 19.

There’s no denying the state’s racist history of school segregation or its ugly efforts in the late 1960s and early 1970s to undermine desegregation orders by helping white children to evade racially integrated schools. These efforts included funneling public money to all-white private schools. But the situation today bears no resemblance to those terrible days. Since most of the students using vouchers are black, it is, as State Education Superintendent John White pointed out to the New Orleans Times-Picayune, “a little ridiculous” to argue that the departure of mostly black students to voucher schools would make their home school systems less white. Every private school participating in the voucher program must comply with the color-blind policies of the federal desegregation court orders.

The government’s argument that “the loss of students through the voucher program reversed much of the progress made toward integration” becomes even more absurd upon examination of the cases it cited in its petition. Consider the analysis from University of Arkansas professor of education reform Jay P. Greene of a school that lost five white students through vouchers and saw a shift in racial composition from 29.6 percent white to 28.9 percent white. Another school that lost six black students and saw a change in racial composition from 30.1 percent black to 29.2 percent black. “Though the students . . . almost certainly would not have noticed a difference, the racial bean counters at the DOJ see worsening segregation,” Mr. Greene wrote on his blog.

The number that should matter to federal officials is this: Roughly 86 percent of students in the voucher program came from schools that were rated D or F. Mr. White called ironic using rules to fight racism to keep students in failing schools; we think it appalling.

Unfortunately, though, it is not a surprise from an administration that, despite its generally progressive views on school reform, has proven to be hostile — as witnessed by its petty machinations against D.C.’s voucher program — to the school choice afforded by private-school vouchers. Mr. White told us that from Day One, the five-year-old voucher program has been subject to unrelenting scrutiny and questions from federal officials. Louisiana parents are clamoring for the choice afforded by this program; the state is insisting on accountability; poor students are benefiting. The federal government should get out of the way.

Did you catch that headline? From WaPo?

"Justice Department bids to trap poor, black children in ineffective schools"

Why would they do that? Do the children come first or not?

[NeedKarma]

Apparently not since there seem to be an abundance of schools rated D or F. No one seems to care.