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Aug 16, 2013, 06:50 AM
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Hello again, tom:
Here's one he could do immediately... force the agency to operate under EXISTING laws and restraints .
Nahhh... Let's operate under the CONSTITUTION. If you let the government snoop a LITTLE, they're going to snoop a LOT.
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Aug 16, 2013, 06:51 AM
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Aug 16, 2013, 06:58 AM
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Actually they aren't eavesdropping, they are collecting metadata. Most people don't seem to understand the difference.
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Aug 23, 2013, 04:31 AM
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Awesome, Obama's blue ribbon group of "outside experts" is in place to review the surveillance activities of our government snoops.
Obama’s ‘outside experts’ for NSA review are former intel and White House staffers
Nothing says confidence more than having your buddies check on the job you're doing. One of these guys if you'll recall, wanted to have government shills "cognitively infiltrate" chat rooms and sites like this to counter conspiracy theories and apparently tell us how awesome our government is.
Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal - Salon.com
Of course we need the ultimate proponent of government propaganda investigating government snoops to inspire joy-joy good feelings in us.
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Aug 23, 2013, 05:31 AM
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Aug 23, 2013, 06:26 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Hardly. <snicker>
Right, this place is too irrelevant to worry about but it is of type listed for targeting. But I understand, you're always so eager to try and make me look silly you can't help but make yourself look like an a$$.
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Aug 23, 2013, 06:35 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Right, this place is too irrelevant to worry about but it is of type listed for targeting. But I understand, you're always so eager to try and make me look silly you can't help but make yourself look like an a$$.
There aren't any terrorists here just a few people with diverse opinions
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Aug 23, 2013, 06:58 AM
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just a few people with diverse opinions
And some extreme bitterness.
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Aug 23, 2013, 07:59 AM
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I'm not bitter, I'm intolerant... of fools.
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Aug 23, 2013, 08:02 AM
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Wow, you really got me there. However will I continue in this life.
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Aug 23, 2013, 08:06 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Wow, you really got me there. However will I continue in this life.
You really don't want me to answer that one, lol.
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Sep 10, 2013, 12:56 PM
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Remember when Obama said this?
“A lot of these programs were put in place before I came in…We don’t have a domestic spying program.”
Once again, liar, liar pants on fire.
Obama administration had restrictions on NSA reversed in 2011
By Ellen Nakashima, Published: September 7 E-mail the writer
The Obama administration secretly won permission from a surveillance court in 2011 to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases, according to interviews with government officials and recently declassified material.
In addition, the court extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years — and more under special circumstances, according to the documents, which include a recently released 2011 opinion by U.S. District Judge John D. Bates, then chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
What had not been previously acknowledged is that the court in 2008 imposed an explicit ban — at the government’s request — on those kinds of searches, that officials in 2011 got the court to lift the bar and that the search authority has been used.
Together the permission to search and to keep data longer expanded the NSA’s authority in significant ways without public debate or any specific authority from Congress. The administration’s assurances rely on legalistic definitions of the term “target” that can be at odds with ordinary English usage. The enlarged authority is part of a fundamental shift in the government’s approach to surveillance: collecting first, and protecting Americans’ privacy later.
The most transparent administration ever not only blamed it on Bush, but had the more stringent restrictions he had in place overturned and expanded. The emperor is a hypocrite of the first degree, and he continues to erode our rights.
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