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    Aug 8, 2013, 08:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    While Palin became the cute back woodsy, maverick, governor on the rise only to find out she couldn't keep her commitment to her state after failing to win over her country. Better suited to the OUTHOUSE than the WHITE HOUSE, or the governors mansion. Perfect for Fox News, and the loony right wing fringe.
    The difference is that she cared about the people of Alaska .So when real phony ethics investigations began to prevent her from doing her job ,she did the right thing and resigned. MORE POLITICIANS FROM BOTH PARTIES COULD LEARN A LESSON FROM THAT .
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    Aug 8, 2013, 08:44 AM
    Never knew a mama grizzly to run from a fight. Or make excuses. You have a future as a Palin spin meister.
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    Aug 8, 2013, 02:15 PM
    BS Tal ,it was a political witch hunt conducted against her because she made the mistake of proposing and passing the toughest ethics laws of any state in the union. Her opponents used the laws against her like Mordred in Camelot. They were bankrupting her personally having to defend herself and more important ,it prevented her from effectively doing her job. She did the right thing for the people of the state as their Governor, and by resigning when she did. More public servants should understand that none of their jobs were ever intended to be lifetime jobs. The founders envisioned citizen statesmen ,not careerists .
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    Aug 8, 2013, 02:33 PM
    How noble to run from a fight and make more money which was her motives in the first place. But of course she could never admit such a thing. Not so sure about those ethnic laws of which you credit her with but she was in bed with big oil and was passing checks from them.

    She made a lot of enemies for the least populated state of its size with a large welfare dependent population.
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    Aug 8, 2013, 02:43 PM
    Not so sure about those ethnic laws of which you credit her with
    Basically she proposed and passed laws you wish your side would do . It's a load of cr@p and a complete lie to say she had a crony relationship with the oil companies. Why don't you do your research instead of flapping gums with lies fed to you by the PDS crowd .

    How Governor Palin Reformed Alaska's Ethics Laws and Made Crony Capitalism a Crime | A Time For Choosing
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    Aug 8, 2013, 02:58 PM
    Pardon me if I am skeptical of a right wing blogger who quotes from Sarah's own book.
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    Aug 8, 2013, 05:34 PM
    Is that all you have ? Prove it wrong. But you won't because you can't .
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    Aug 8, 2013, 08:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Basically she proposed and passed laws you wish your side would do . It's a load of cr@p and a complete lie to say she had a crony relationship with the oil companies. Why don't you do your research instead of flapping gums with lies fed to you by the PDS crowd .

    How Governor Palin Reformed Alaska's Ethics Laws and Made Crony Capitalism a Crime | A Time For Choosing
    And Tom rushes to her defence like a good republican, is your slip showing Tom
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    Aug 9, 2013, 02:09 AM
    I defend Palin because she is unfairly smeared here . I also share Palin's CONSERVATIVE views. Do you really think the beltway Repubics ,the party leadership like and support her ? No Clete ,I don't march when the Repubics beat their drums.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 04:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I defend Palin because she is unfairly smeared here . I also share Palin's CONSERVATIVE views. Do you really think the beltway Repubics ,the party leadership like and support her ? No Clete ,I don't march when the Repubics beat their drums.
    Well perhaps you should. Genuine grass roots people such as yourself will never get a say.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 05:18 AM
    Tut I tried . Too much garbage to swallow. Here is my compromise. When they act like free market ;small government constitutionalists I can get with their program. But I have no intention to even pretend to support Democrat-lite.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 06:02 AM
    Are you joking? Sister Sarah and her red meat rhetoric for conservatives hardly makes her your savior. And does nothing for the rest of the country. But if she is all you got..!

    Keep purging your own party, its great theater, and dwindles the numbers down even faster. You think a RINO will vote for a redneck?
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    Aug 9, 2013, 06:30 AM
    Hello again, tom:
    When they act like free market ;small government constitutionalists I can get with their program.
    IF Republicans acted like that, I'd BE one. But, they FOOL themselves into believing that crap..

    Right wingers believe in HUGE, unbelievably LARGE government when it comes to things like COPS, and the DRUG WAR, and managing the HUGEST, LARGEST prison population in the world... They're happy with the BIG, HUGE NSA program that SNOOPS on every American in direct violation to the Constitution...

    Oh, yeah... They LOVE spending LARGE, unbelievably MONSTROUS amounts of cash on our military... More than the next 16 countries COMBINED...

    They just think the SOCIAL side of government is WAYYYYY tooo big, and shouldn't even exist.

    In the final analysis, you AIN'T fooling nobody.

    Excon
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    Aug 9, 2013, 06:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:
    IF Republicans acted like that, I'd BE one. But, they FOOL themselves into believing that crap.. Right wingers believe in HUGE, unbelievably LARGE government when it comes to things like COPS, and the DRUG WAR, and managing the HUGEST, LARGEST prison population in the world... They're happy with the BIG, HUGE NSA program that SNOOPS on every American in direct violation to the Constitution...

    Oh, yeah... They LOVE spending LARGE, unbelievably MONSTROUS amounts of cash on our military.... More than the next 16 countries COMBINED...

    So, in the final analysis, you AIN'T fooling nobody.

    excon
    You forgot about the vagina cops.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 08:04 AM
    Abortion and forced "Euthanasia" are both murder.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 08:16 AM
    Denying health insurance to poor people while you buy yours at a cut rate from the boss can be forced euthanasia also. And that's after you pop out the vagina. So bosses that don't provide adequate health insurance are murderers. Insurance providers that drop people when they face life threatening diseases are murderers.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 09:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Denying health insurance to poor people while you buy yours at a cut rate from the boss can be forced euthanasia also. And that's after you pop out the vagina. So bosses that don't provide adequate health insurance are murderers. Insurance providers that drop people when they face life threatening diseases are murderers.
    Nobody is DENYING the lazy cheapskate poor people anything... they can buy it and pay for it like everyone else has to do... if they stopped wasting money on things like cellphones for every kid... they could pay for medical insurance on just what they spend every month on their phone bill.

    Funny how you and the other lefties can kill babies cold heartedly... but refuse to hold people old enough to be responsible for their own behaviour... to be responsible for their own behaviour.

    And personally I know lots of porr people that should die because they wasted their money on dumb instant gratification rather than spend it on things they actually need.

    I did it... there is absolutely no excuse why they can't either.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 09:19 AM
    No they can't, you embellish and exaggerate.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 09:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No they can't, you embellish and exaggerate.
    Bulls**t,,

    The so-called poor have $200+ gym shoes... and expensive jackets... that they are on the news all the time for getting beat to a pulp or shot by some other "poor" person who steals it off them.

    Anyone that has shoes that cost more than $40 (and that's being generous) has money to spend on health insurance.

    If you wear $200 or $300 Nike shoes... you HAVE money for health insurance.

    I actually have a job so does my wife... and between me and my wife we are at the 6 figure range... neither of us own a pair of $90 dress shoes much less $200 or $300 tennis shoes.
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    Aug 9, 2013, 09:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The so-called poor have $200+ gym shoes...and expensive jacket
    All of them -- or how many? Or just the ones who made the news?

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