[tomder55]

What ifs are great games on rainy days . The answer is that yes ;IF Zimmerman was pounding Martins face with his fists while straddling him AND hitting his head against the pavement ,then it would've also been self defense for Martin to shoot Zimmerman.

[talaniman]

more proof of what I said. He acted completely within the law. And this trial had nothing to do with SYG . But your side is still harping on that as it has been since day one even though it was never brought up as a legitimate defense. What would you do ; nullfy self defense laws too ? Or maybe you hoped the jury would nullify the law , like they nullified the law when they acquitted Lemrick Nelson Jr. for the murder of Yankel Rosenbaum .

The jury was instructed to follow the stand your ground self defense because he was breaking no laws, (just acting stupidly against accepted procedure for a NW captain) and Nelson was subsequently sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Hope the law catches up with Zimmerman too, and its funny how you lost sight that even with a few acquittals justice was eventually served. But in this case its YOU who defend the killer as Dinkens did before.

[tomder55]

The jury was instructed to follow the stand your ground self defense because he was breaking no laws,

wrong the jury was instructed to determine if the ;prosecution proved 2nd degree murder and the additional lesser charges the judge allowed. SYG was never offered as a defense.

Yeah the Feds later got Nelson of civil rights charges AFTER HE ADMITTED to the killing . He was also arrested on a number of unrelated violent crimes.And no ;I don't think the civil rights charges are legit . All that mattered was that Rosenbaum was killed in cold blood .

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, steve:
You're sounding more and more like smoothy every day. That ain't a POSITIVE step.

excon

Dude, the San Diego Democratic Party knew of sexual harassment allegations of Bob Filner for two years. Obama and his supporters, you included, refuse to take seriously the many scandals, they're 'phony' even though the lies are clear cut and people have died. Planned Parenthood and NARAL showed more concern for 'women's rights' than Gosnell victims and every one of you mock and scorn every time one of the many Obamacare failures is mentioned. You're perfectly willing to disregard the first amendment in spite of its clear enumerated rights and centuries of precedence and history to furnish free contraception to women.

I could on and on but I'm right about this, your collective agenda is more important than our individual rights and what's a few victims as long as the guy in power is toeing the line. Prove me wrong.

[smoothy]

I really hope some prominent Democrats are on the receiving end of the first criminal cases after they revoke the Double Jeopardy laws.

Because its not illegal to kill a Democrat thug (a future democrat thug in this case) in self defense... and that was proven in the court of law... time to pull up your big boy and girl underpants and put away the diapers.

[speechlesstx]

Who could have seen this coming after the national lynching of Zimmerman based on lies, half-truths, selective editing, etc...

Adams Morgan hate crime was motivated by Zimmerman verdict, police say

By Nicole Chavez and Stefanie Dazio, Published: July 27

A Bethesda man was beaten and robbed early Saturday morning in Adams Morgan by three men who yelled, “This is for Trayvon Martin,” before attacking him, police said.

The incident is being investigated as a hate crime and robbery, according to D.C. police spokesman Araz Alali.

Three black men approached an adult white male from behind while he was walking in the 1700 block of Euclid Street NW at 1:26 a.m. Saturday, police said.

Two of the men threw the victim to the ground and kicked him, Alali said. The three perpetrators then took the victim’s iPhone and wallet and fled.

The victim suffered minor injuries and declined medical attention, authorities said.

“There is no pattern in these types of crimes. These attacks are outrageous; we are doing everything in our power to see that they certainly don’t occur. If they do occur, we are going to aggressively investigate them and bring people to justice,” Alali said.

[talaniman]

Oh please, equating a mugging to the Zimmermann trial? What's your point? If Zimmerman hadn't been vilified this guy wouldn't have been mugged at 1:30 AM walking alone?

If indeed he was robbed by 3 black guys. I mean hard to imagine 3 guys beating up somebody and them not going to a hospital. Just saying.

[smoothy]

Oh please, equating a mugging to the Zimmermann trial? What's your point? If Zimmerman hadn't been vilified this guy wouldn't have been mugged at 1:30 AM walking alone?

If indeed he was robbed by 3 black guys. I mean hard to imagine 3 guys beating up somebody and them not going to a hospital. Just saying.

Three blacks targetign and singling out a white guy to rop and beat... THAT defines a hate crime...

Not one hispanic guy defending himself against one block punk thug who thought he was assaulting a white guy.

[paraclete]

What a screwed up world when a white guy can't defend hisself, you would think the black guys were running the country, now... wait a minute there...

[talaniman]

Three blacks targetign adn singling out a white guy to rop and beat...THAT defines a hate crime...

Not one hispanic guy defending himself agains one block punk thug who thought he was assaulting a white guy.

He was a victim of opportunity for robbery, nothing to do with hate. He was alone so wasn't singled out because he was white, but because he was alone. That's what criminals do.

He wouldn't be the first white person to say a black guy did it now would he? Don't be so quick to swallow everything hook, line, and sinker. Or embellish without facts as you are prone to do consistently.

[smoothy]

He was a victim of opportunity for robbery, nothing to do with hate. He was alone so wasn't singled out because he was white, but because he was alone. That's what criminals do.

He wouldn't be the first white person to say a black guy did it now would he? Don't be so quick to swallow everything hook, line, and sinker. Or embellish without facts as you are prone to do consistently.

Well... after hearing about what a racist Zimmerman was for defending himself against a black attacker for how long now...

Then any attacks on a non-black by a black equally have to be assumed is a hate crime.

I didn't open that can of worms up... they did... and they can't have it both ways.

[paraclete]

Don't you just hate the way people get the facts all screwed up, it's a crime

[speechlesstx]

Oh please, equating a mugging to the Zimmermann trial? What's your point? If Zimmerman hadn't been vilified this guy wouldn't have been mugged at 1:30 AM walking alone?

If indeed he was robbed by 3 black guys. I mean hard to imagine 3 guys beating up somebody and them not going to a hospital. Just saying.

I forgot the link, WaPo, but dude, what part of plain facts do you not get? You're always shooting the messenger, me, when I;m just relaying the news. I didn't write it.

"Adams Morgan hate crime was motivated by Zimmerman verdict, police say"

"A Bethesda man was beaten and robbed early Saturday morning in Adams Morgan by three men who yelled, “This is for Trayvon Martin,” before attacking him, police said.

You calling the cops liars?

[speechlesstx]

Uh oh, Zimmerman was pulled over in Texas for speeding - AND he was packing heat!! The media is all over this. Even the Daily Mail is on it...

The gun in the glove box is legal in Texas, and police routinely ask motorists if they have weapons in the car, Brooks said. He said the entire stop lasted less than five minutes.

'It wasn't for super-excessive speeds, they just got him on regular speeding,' said Brian Brooks, city manager of Forney, Texas, about 25 miles southeast of Dallas, where Zimmerman was stopped.

'It's a pretty routine stop except for the fact that it was George Zimmerman.'

Zimmerman, 29, who is white and Hispanic, was found not guilty of murder and manslaughter on July 13 in Florida after a racially charged trial in the shooting of Martin in February 2012. Thousands of people demonstrated across the United States after the verdict.

He got off with a warning. But he is guilty of being "white and Hispanic" and carrying a gun, though I can't imagine why anyone with such a target on his back would want to carry a gun.

[tomder55]

Didn't know it was possible the exceed the speed limit in Tx.

[excon]

Hello tom:

It's true. Perry doesn't enforce the laws of his state, and you make light of it... But, let Obama do the same thing, and he's a bad bad man...

You're not fooling anybody, though.

excon

[speechlesstx]

didn't know it was possible the exceed the speed limit in Tx.

Yes sir it is, especially in Estelline. 75 on the interstates is plenty fast to drive but that's only in open country, which we have a lot of to traverse. It's pretty much 60 mph or less once you hit city limits.

[speechlesstx]

Hello tom:

It's true. Perry doesn't enforce the laws of his state, and you make light of it... But, let Obama do the same thing, and he's a bad bad man...

You're not fooling anybody, though.

excon

I did not know Perry was patrolling the streets.

[speechlesstx]

The latest in the honest conversation on race in this country...

Charlie Rangel: Tea Party Is ‘Same Group’ Of ‘White Crackers’ Who Fought Civil Rights

How is that "white crackers" is somehow not supposed to be a racial slur?

[smoothy]

I'd like to call Charley a thing or two since he wants to toss around slurs... and it won't be crooked criminal... if he's man enough to toss them around... then he's man enough to be on the receiving end of them too.