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    #181

    Jul 19, 2013, 04:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Another global economic meltdown?
    How much money that could go to salaries and investment and such is going to be wasted trying to figure out what the hell the law means?
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    #182

    Jul 28, 2013, 07:05 AM
    Turns out Snowjob is more KGB than Patrick Henry with a laptop, Who knew ?

    Edward Snowden Seeking to Join KGB Veterans Group | Washington Free Beacon
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    #183

    Jul 28, 2013, 07:21 AM
    Hello again, tom:
    The Washington Free Beacon, a project of the 501(c)4 Center for American Freedom, is a nonprofit online newspaper that began publication on February 7, 2012.
    Me?? I'd rather get my propaganda from MSNBC.

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    #184

    Jul 28, 2013, 08:34 AM
    Are you saying Bill Gertz is not a legitimate journalist ?

    The NY Slimes is reporting that Snowjob's lawyer has ties to Federal Security Service (F.S.B.)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/28/wo...anted=all&_r=0

    You know what FSB is ? The main successor agency to the KGB .
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    #185

    Jul 28, 2013, 09:16 AM
    Hello again:

    Republican Saxby Chandless says that, IF they were allowed to do it, the SPYING program that they're using NOW, would have prevented 9/11.

    Duh! Who among us doesn't think a police state WORKS to reduce crime? Is that what we want America to become?

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    #186

    Aug 5, 2013, 05:19 AM
    Hello again,

    Give 'em an inch...

    Yes, the DEA wants access to the NSA data? Should they have it? What about your local police? Should THEY have NSA data about you? In fact, ALL government agencies WANT access to that data. Who's surprised at that?

    In my view, the 4th Amendment is MUCH more important to our freedom than being able to own a gun..

    To those of you who SUPPORT a police state, please answer my above question.

    excon
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    #187

    Aug 5, 2013, 06:16 AM
    Why should it be one or the other?
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    #188

    Aug 5, 2013, 06:40 AM
    More important than your right to have a gun?

    You are aware that after they take away everyone's guns... "The Man" will have absolutely nothing holding them back for going all the way overboard... Ghandi types don't scare that element... a bullet to the skull and Gandhi would have been worm food... shoot enough of the Gandhi types and the weaker willed will capitulate.

    We've seen for 4.5 years now the Law means absolutely nothing to meglomanicas on a power trip.
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    #189

    Aug 5, 2013, 07:16 AM
    Your right to have a gun are no more or less important than anyone else's. Naw I doubt you wingers can shoot your way to ruling the country. Stupid to try.

    Just curious Smoothie, ever have a psych evaluation? I think all you gun toter's' should have one, especially for concealed handguns. And you can't drink and drive so you shouldn't be allowed to drink and shoot either.

    I know requiring a basic competency test is taking away your right to bear arms, but who wants a crazy drunk a$$ with a gun roaming the streets?
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    #190

    Aug 5, 2013, 07:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Your right to have a gun are no more or less important than anyone else's. Naw I doubt you wingers can shoot your way to ruling the country. Stupid to try.

    Just curious Smoothie, ever have a psych evaluation? I think all you gun toter's' should have one, especially for concealed handguns. And you can't drink and drive so you shouldn't be allowed to drink and shoot either.

    I know requiring a basic competency test is taking away your right to bear arms, but who wants a crazy drunk a$$ with a gun roaming the streets?
    I think I'd rather have a crazy drunk with a gun than a Democrat drunk with power.
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    #191

    Aug 5, 2013, 07:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Your right to have a gun are no more or less important than anyone else's. Naw I doubt you wingers can shoot your way to ruling the country. Stupid to try.

    Just curious Smoothie, ever have a psych evaluation? I think all you gun toter's' should have one, especially for concealed handguns. And you can't drink and drive so you shouldn't be allowed to drink and shoot either.

    I know requiring a basic competency test is taking away your right to bear arms, but who wants a crazy drunk a$$ with a gun roaming the streets?
    I think all tihe Communist leaning types should get an evaluation... to find out why they think they are entitled to a free ride but expect everyone else to foot the bill.

    There is no right to a free ride anywhere in the BIll of Rights... OR the Constitution.

    Our right to own guns to keep the lunatic fringe on the left in check... however IS.
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    #192

    Aug 5, 2013, 01:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Your right to have a gun are no more or less important than anyone else's. Naw I doubt you wingers can shoot your way to ruling the country. Stupid to try.

    Just curious Smoothie, ever have a psych evaluation? I think all you gun toter's' should have one, especially for concealed handguns. And you can't drink and drive so you shouldn't be allowed to drink and shoot either.

    I know requiring a basic competency test is taking away your right to bear arms, but who wants a crazy drunk a$$ with a gun roaming the streets?
    What grab bag are you picking from to get all these talking points ? The second amendment is the most inportant amendment as it upholds all the others. As far as the fourth I believe they are in violation of it with how they are handleing this through the NSA.

    You do know or are aware it is illegal to drink and carry a gun right? If you hold a carry permit and have anything in your system or on your breath you lose that permit. No ifs ands or buts. It's the Law.
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    #193

    Aug 5, 2013, 01:38 PM
    Details, details.
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    #194

    Aug 7, 2013, 02:00 PM
    Great news, the DOJ is going to investigate itself just like it did with Fast and Furious.

    The US Department of Justice has launched an investigation into revelations that the Drug Enforcement Agency uses surveillance tactics – including wiretapping and massive databases of telephone records – to arrest Americans, amid growing concerns from lawyers and civil rights groups over its lack of transparency.
    Move along, nothing to see here. Look, something shiny!
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    #195

    Aug 9, 2013, 02:59 AM
    The emperor showed some spine this week in cancelling a summit with Vladdy (Darby) Putin. Let's face the facts... Evita and his reset have had the predictable results . Putin sees el jeffe as a weak President and openly shows his disdain . I can understand him not cooperating with us where he sees where it counters Russian national interest . But it is a hard sell to claim keeping Snowjob in Russian custody instead of honoring our extradition request is in their interest (what ? You thought they were granting him asylum ? ). No doubt they already downloaded his computers while he was still hanging in Moscow Airport.

    This is just poking a finger in our eye .Doubly so when you consider that we released Russian spies ,including Anna Chapman, instead of tossing them in the slammer .

    I welcome the fact that after 5 years as our leader ,the Emperor finally realizes the necessity of preconditions before discussion... even though I thought I heard the emperor say he didn't care about a 29 year old hacker. Next lesson... don't draw red lines unless you intend to enforce them.
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    #196

    Aug 9, 2013, 03:11 AM
    ProPublica highlights the differences in policy between the emperor and Senator Obama.

    The Surveillance Reforms Obama Supported Before He Was President - ProPublica
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    #197

    Aug 9, 2013, 04:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ProPublica highlights the differences in policy between the emperor and Senator Obama.

    The Surveillance Reforms Obama Supported Before He Was President - ProPublica
    Tom, do I really need to go over the whole thing again. Both sides see the benefit of the current practice. A path once trodden in the present will become a path well worn in the future.
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    #198

    Aug 9, 2013, 05:22 AM
    Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the emperor for the benefit of the Obots.
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    #199

    Aug 9, 2013, 06:31 AM
    That's the problem Tom seeing only the conservative view and thinking its absolutely right and everybody else is a criminal, and wrong. Not everyone buys the true believer approach. Especially when you eat your own.
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    #200

    Aug 9, 2013, 06:38 AM
    Hello again,

    How's THIS for eating our own? Under THIS president, we have witnessed the complete and absolute destruction of the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution...

    While you wingers were sniveling about the Second Amendment, he STOLE the Fourth.

    excon

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