[tomder55]

His initial phone call had nothing to do with race... despite MSNBC's clever editing .

[talaniman]

"these guys always get away". He assumed this teen was a bad guy.

[speechlesstx]

And what exactly does "these guys" mean? Black guys?

[talaniman]

And what exactly does "these guys" mean? Black guys?

Those were his words, and I take him at his words, he meant bad guys. So why would he think a stranger to him was a bad guy? I don't know, so I won't assume.

[smoothy]

Those were his words, and I take him at his words, he meant bad guys.

So when Black guys say that... who do they mean?

I hear White people referring to other white people saying "these guys" all the time.

So I guess ONLY black people are allowed to use the phrase "These guys" or they get their panties in a knot if anyone else uses it, now? I think they need to start wearing their big boy pants if they are taking offense to that now.

[talaniman]

The connotation these guys, or those guys, or those people conveys different than yourself, whatever you may be. If a boss says it doesn't he mean the worker?

[smoothy]

The connotation these guys, or those guys, or those people conveys different than yourself, whatever you may be. If a boss says it doesn't he mean the worker?

And him saying these guys had ZERO racial connotations and he did mean the element that causes trouble.. which IS not limited to or directed at any specific ethnic group... unlike the racist remarks Trayvons fat stupid girlfriend made... saying the racist remarks Trayvon told her on the phone under oath on the stand, Stupid because she saw absolutely nothing wrong with it... but I bet she would find something wrong if anyone called her a crazy azz "n".

Yep she is the poster child for everything that's wrong in the public education system.

Because a black person a non-black person a crazy azz white cracker (which is NOT a term of endearment)... is really NO different and means the same as a White guy calling a black person the N word... that blacks are so fond of calling each other these days.

And no way does it convey... specifically another ethnic group... it very simply mean THAT group of people... which can be ANY ethnicity or a blend of every just the same.

It can the football team... the basketball team.. it could be geeks... women... or the group of police officers standing nearby.

Who would have guessed EVERY kid in the workd is a racist... when they tell their parents "but THOSE guys get to do it, why can't I".

[talaniman]

The way people talk is between them because they understand each other but the real issue here is did the guy with the gun assume the young guy walking was a bad guy, and he did.

That assumption started a tragic chain of events in motion and a neighbor hood watch guy should have known better.

[talaniman]

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[smoothy]

The way people talk is between them because they understand each other but the real issue here is did the guy with the gun assume the young guy walking was a bad guy, and he did.

That assumption started a tragic chain of events in motion and a neighbor hood watch guy should have known better.

Treyvon was a thug.. with numerous previous criminal convictions. Not an innocent choir boy.

Zimmerman had none...


Oh... exactly what connotation does "crazy azz white Cracker" Carry... I think its pretty clear... those were Travons words. But I guess blacks can make any insulting comment they want to any other group... and there is NO mistaking that...

I can tell you EVERYONE that speaks the English language has used MANY TIMES the phrase... "These guys, those guys, ,these people. those people" without once intending anything racist in it...

Because if we wanted to... there are so many creative terms for any group out there in the English language

In fact if some lunatic fringe group takes offense at a term that only means a group of humans... its past time they got some serious mental help.

[talaniman]

Treyvon was a thug.. with numerous previous criminal convictions. Not an innocent choir boy.

Zimmerman had none...

And how could he have known all that? He assumed it? WHY? What previous criminal convictions?

[earl237]

I found CNN's coverage of the Martin/Zimmerman case was very biased. When they showed pictures of Martin, they always showed ones where he was younger and smiling innocently. There are many pictures where he appears very thuggish and menacing, why weren't any of those pictures shown? Just like the media always showed pictures of Omar Khadhr when he was 15 and clean shaven even when he was an adult and had the typical bearded terrorist look. Martin wasn't totally innocent, he had been suspended for drug use, and was involved in an underground fight club where fights were planned and filmed.

[smoothy]

CNN's coverage of the First gulf war was 100% scripted... wasn't really that far off... but it was what they were told to say... and nothing more.. and there was huge amounts of stuff they never covered and most likely never even knew about.

Lets just say my job at that time let me see more than you could imagine.

And yeah... most of the coverage on this Zimmerman case is hugely biased. So much so they would be telling armed women that if they are raped.. it would be 2nd degree murder if they killed their rapist... because they didn't leave the rapists personal space... even if it was in their own front yard... by the same logic they use to blame Zimmerman for exercising the right to defend himself..

It's that mind set that has allowed more people to be killed in the last couple years than during the ENTIRE Iraq and Afghanistan wars in Chicago alone.. and be nearly completely ignored... but they show their racist side and are literally LYNCHING Andrew Zimmerman.

[earl237]

Breaking news, the jury has acquitted George Zimmerman of murder. Let's hope there won't be any riots, there is already too much violence in this world.

[smoothy]

And how could he have known all that? He assumed it? WHY? What previous criminal convictions?

If it walks like a duck.. quacks like a duck... then it's a duck.

Have you seen the ACTUAL photos of Trayvon the 17 year old? Not the several years old pictures of a much younger much smaller prepubescent Trayvon the left pretends was him at the time

He lived and acted the thug part.

And fact is... his criminal past only proves Zimmerman was right about everything.

[smoothy]

Breaking news, the jury has acquitted George Zimmerman of murder. Let's hope there won't be any riots, there is already too much violence in this world.

Great, I haven't seen that yet... Despite the political thuggery the Obama administration put forcing this case... threatening to fire the chief of police who said they didn't have enough cause... and the fact they forced it WITHOUT a grand jury indictment... Its great and supports the fact we have the RIGHT to defend ourselves against criminals... even to the point of killing the criminals.

Also upholds the fact the public's rights are not lesser than the criminals rights.

Let the Black Panthers come into MY neighborhood causing trouble and see how many of them get shot to death...

Virginia doesn't tolerate that element quietly.

Even if they had found him guilty... the bizarre and honestly very RUDE and biased comments made by that judge would have guaranteed a retrial in a new venue.

[talaniman]

On to the civil suit where he will be compelled to testify.

[smoothy]

On to the civil suit where he will be compelled to testify.

He should file civil suits against the thugs parents and that moron Trayvon was banging.

And that idiot Judge and Prosecutor too.

And File suits for Malicious prosecution

After that attempted Lynching... he should have no problem finding law firms to do it.

[Tuttyd]

And I would venture a guess.....very, very few black American that can trace ancestory back to when slavery was practiced...have a purely African genetic lineage. Meaning there is at least one non-black in their family tree.

"And"... and what? We can move from a position of not wanting to know anything about modern genetics to an equally nonsensical position of.. "have a purely African genetic lineage." There is no such thing as a pure genetic lineage.

[tomder55]

On to the civil suit where he will be compelled to testify.

The legal system isn't done yet I think . No doubt the Holder Justice Dept will pursue civil rights charges based on those silly doctored MSNBC tapes(of which Zimmerman is suing MSNBC over ). Doesn't matter that Zimmerman had a long prior history of charity work involving black youths in his predominantly African American church... That he mentored black children and even dated a black girl in High School... or that an FBI investigation found no evidence of racism to pursue civil rights charges.
The NAACP is already asking Holder to revisit that possibility.. and no doubt the race baiters like Sharpton will follow..