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    #101

    Jul 10, 2013, 03:22 PM
    They are looking for the registered Democrats to weed out the Republicans who aren't getting all wet and tingly over the Messiah...

    Because personally... after nearly 3 decades in and around the government... the biggest threat to American security and the United States is living in the White house for another couple years.
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    #102

    Jul 10, 2013, 03:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    They are looking for the registered Democrats to weed out the Republicans who aren't getting all wet and tingly over the Messiah....

    Because personally...after nearly 3 decades in and around the government...the biggest threat to American security and the United States is living in the White house for another couple years.
    Personally you had your chance to remove him and as usual you blew it. Stop crying.
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    #103

    Jul 10, 2013, 03:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Personally you had your chance to remove him and as usual you blew it. Stop crying.
    He could have never qualified for ANY security clearance based on the standards that apply to everyone who is not a Democrat Messiah.

    His ties with known... and convicted terrorists alone would have disqualified him on that reason alone.
    He's always been a threat to American security... he will always remain a threat to American security.


    And incidentally... he would not have won EITHER election if there wasn't massive voter fraud.
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    #104

    Jul 10, 2013, 06:06 PM
    I take it Tal is OK with the precime profiling.
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    #105

    Jul 10, 2013, 06:10 PM
    Remember the chip in your wrist is mandatory by 2015 - 17. You think you got problems now! Wait until it weaves into every cell, veins and all and they can do with you what they want.
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    #106

    Jul 10, 2013, 06:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Remember the chip in your wrist is mandatory by 2015 - 17. You think you got problems now! Wait until it weaves into every cell, veins and all and they can do with you what they want.
    What chip?
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    #107

    Jul 10, 2013, 06:22 PM
    They have been pushing back the date, not sure the new date. The chip will keep track of every detail about you. It will be your bank, and NO it is not an Obama thing even though it is in Obamacare. It started way back before Obama and Bush. Both parties want it which proves yet again that the gov is 1 party. Look up New World Order (which both Bushs said a lot) look up agenda 21. Mandatory RFID Chip For All Americans With Biometrics by 2014 - Houston News and Breaking World News - NewscastMedia.com
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    #108

    Jul 11, 2013, 04:36 AM
    The chip will keep track of every detail about you. It will be your bank, and NO it is not an Obama thing even though it is in Obamacare.
    All that is completely false. No government could force an individual to do that. This is tinfoil hat stuff.
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    #109

    Jul 11, 2013, 04:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    All that is completely false. No government could force an individual to do that. This is tinfoil hat stuff.
    Actually its not far fetched... and is technologically possible... and is incredibly cheap.

    Its done with pets.. it can just as easily be done with people.

    RFID it's a technology that's been around for quite a while.
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    #110

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:02 AM
    Not sure about the specifics in the 2000 page law . There actually were provisions about rf chipping in some of the early proposals . As I recall ,it was in medical device monitoring language.
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    #111

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:14 AM
    Actually its not far fetched... and is technologically possible... and is incredibly cheap.

    Its done with pets.. it can just as easily be done with people.

    RFID it's a technology that's been around for quite a while.
    I know all that, and more than you, for a specific reason. My point was that no government could force its citizens to get "chipped" against their will.
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    #112

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I know all that, and more than you, for a specific reason. My point was that no government could force its citizens to get "chipped" against their will.
    Really... they force you to pay taxes... they force you to do a lot of things... gettign an ID chip really isn't that much of a jump.

    Incidentally... I'm a Degreed Electronic Engineer... unless you are too... I think I know more about how these work.

    I spent years in R&D labs... in fact you are using something right now I had a hand in designeing and bringing to market. In fact everyone here is.

    But I'm not going to tell you what it is... because there was only a handful of us involved and I value my anonymity.
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    #113

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:25 AM
    You're old, I'm young, I'm more involved in the technology and the government. :D
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    #114

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You're old, I'm young, I'm more involved in the technology and the government. :D
    Old is a relative term...

    I've been involved in High tech since College... which makes it roughly 32 years. And I really wish I was able to talk about all of it, because I've never tired of the field, and still find a lot of it fascinating... but I'm not a Snowden... so I keep it to things I'm allowed to speak about.
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    #115

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:37 AM
    This stuff has nothing to do with secrets.
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    #116

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:39 AM
    Time to buy stock in Verizon:
    What the government pays to snoop on you
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    #117

    Jul 11, 2013, 05:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Time to buy stock in Verizon:
    What the government pays to snoop on you
    EVERY phone company does it because they don't have a choice... and if you don't think this happens in other countries too... you are sadly mistaken. Maybe not so much the third world countries... but any of the advanced ones.


    Kind of like the French pretending they are upset spying takes place... every country spys on every other one... even the French do it, and its not even a secret.
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    #118

    Jul 11, 2013, 06:21 AM
    In Canada the ISPs can tell law force and gov agencies to screw off unless they have a judge-signed document.
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    #119

    Jul 11, 2013, 06:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    In Canada the ISPs can tell law force and gov agencies to screw off unless they have a judge-signed document.
    You think they would have a difficult time getting a judge to sign that? I don't... they don't have a hard time getting it done here either.

    And contrary to what you might hear on the news... it doesn't get done here without going through the proper channels either.
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    #120

    Jul 11, 2013, 06:43 AM
    it doesn't get done here without going through the proper channels either.
    You're paying attention or you haven't been reading - yes, they can and yes they've been doing it for a while.

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