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jlisenbe · Jul 6, 2013, 06:41 PM

You see a hole in our ceiling where some recessed fluorescent lighting was. One cable is from the switch. The two cables connected must stay that way. One is the hot feed, and the other goes to a wall outlet. We intend to sheetrock that hole. The only thing I know to do is to put a box up there and connect them in the box, but my understanding is that boxes containing splices are supposed to be accessible. I have no idea how to get it that way unless I mount the box in such a way that it is visible from the sheetrock like a box for a lighting fixture, and then just put a cover over it, which seems to me to be a bit strange. Ideas?

ma0641 · Jul 6, 2013, 07:57 PM

I just saw a neat trick for a similar issue. Pulled the wire back into the wall, cut a hole, put in a junction box, ran a new lead to the light from the jbox and covered the jbox with a mirror. Could you do this?

donf · Jul 7, 2013, 06:29 AM

Am I missing something?

I see two cables connected together. White to White and Black to Black. The short cable going to the left of the splice is bare. This was the section that fed the light.

Is the receptacle always hot, or does the switch control power to both the light and receptacle outlet?

If the receptacle is always hot and it if supplies the feed for the switch, then with power off on that circuit, remove the switch and cable from the switch to the light fixture. Cap off the feed to the switch and place a blank cover over the switch.

jlisenbe · Jul 7, 2013, 07:58 PM

The short cable is the feed to the light switch that worked the old fluorescent fixture. They did not use a box but just ran all the wires into one of the fluorescent fixtures and did the splicing there. We are going to put a ceiling fan in and want to still be able to use the switch, but here's the rub. The ceiling fan, in order to be centered in the room, must be moved over about two feet to the left of where the two wires are presently spliced. The wire from the outlet won't reach that far. Is it possible for me to hook to that wire in the box where the outlet is and, pulling from where the wire enters the wall, pull new wire up to the ceiling? If I can do that, then I can just pull as much wire as I need. The attached photo is a little dark but you can see where the wire heads down the wall.

jlisenbe · Jul 7, 2013, 08:02 PM

Ma, might try your idea if I can't pull a new wire.

ma0641 · Jul 8, 2013, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Ma, might try your idea if I can't pull a new wire.

Hope you can pull a new wire. Otherwise you may be able to put a Jbox behind
The clock.

jlisenbe · Jul 8, 2013, 04:07 PM

Yeah. I thought about some at work today and the junction box is sounding better all the time. Something like this: Shop CARLON 14.0 cu in 1-Gang Old Work Plastic Electrical Box at Lowes.com

ma0641 · Jul 8, 2013, 06:41 PM

Yep, that's how I do it, cover is .59 cents. My son just bought a house, brick veneer and hard to pull wires. Need a couple in the attic and crawl space. That's what I'll use except nail on since I have access. .

jlisenbe · Jul 9, 2013, 06:58 PM

Nightmare. That's all I can say. Nightmare. Come to find out that both wires going down the wall went into a hidden jbox about two feet down the wall. Had to pull the wall (painted paneling) back to see all of this when we could not get the wire to pull at all. Those two wires are spliced in the box along with a third wire going to an outlet towards the floor and a fourth wire going to a switch for an outdoor light. Trying to figure out how to get the hidden jbox visible. I think I can access it from the outside. It will look strange, but it's the only way to do it that I can think of. I had planned on being done in an hour or two. Instead, I am not even halfway finished. So I am whining about it. Whine, whine, whine. There... I got it out. Now I can press on.

I don't see how you pro's do this. I would go nuts.

jlisenbe · Jul 23, 2013, 05:29 PM

Well, it turned out to be ten times more work than I anticipated, but it's all good. I put a box to the outside and did my splicing there. Worked out fine, but that meant destroying the paneling on the inside to get to it. SOOOO, I ended up sheetrocking the entire wall. Joy. But it's all for the good. Thanks for the help.