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    Jul 9, 2013, 03:36 AM
    When there was an issue about the Plame leak ,the Dems asked for an independent investigation and prosecutor... and President Bush had one appointed . Where is the independent investigation in any of the many scandals of the emperor's reign ?
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    Jul 9, 2013, 11:17 AM
    Gasland, the Academy Award nominated anti-fracking film which scammed people into believing that fracking contaminated our water and turned faucets into fireballs, has a sequel.

    This time they've gone the full monty in their hoax by turning a garden hose into a flame thrower. That's easy when you hook your hose up to the gas line instead of your hose bibb.

    Environmentalist filmmaker Josh Fox presents a hoax perpetrated by a Texas activist designed to malign an innovative oil and gas extraction technique as sensational evidence of its catastrophic environmental impact.

    Fox’s new film, Gasland Part II, features a powerful scene showing a Texas landowner lighting the contents of a garden hose on fire. The incident is presented as evidence of water contamination from a nearby hydraulic fracturing operation.

    According to a Texas court, the scene was actually a hoax devised by a Texas environmental activist engaged in a prolonged battle with a local gas company to falsely inflate the supposed dangers of the oil and gas extraction technique, also known as fracking.

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    Texas’ 43rd Judicial District Court found in February 2012 that Steven Lipsky, “under the advice or direction” of Texas environmental activist Alisa Rich, “intentionally attach[ed] a garden hose to a gas vent—not a water line” and lit its contents on fire.

    “This demonstration was not done for scientific study but to provide local and national news media a deceptive video, calculated to alarm the public into believing the water was burning,” the court found in response to a defamation complaint brought by Range Resources, the company conducting hydraulic fracturing operations in the area, against Lipsky and his wife.
    Over to you NK, take it away with your "boy who cried wolf" stuff.
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    #523

    Jul 9, 2013, 11:19 AM
    What future train wreck are you trying to protect us from now?
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    Jul 9, 2013, 11:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What future train wreck are you trying to protect us from now?
    Flaming Canadian Train Wrecks?

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...n-train-wreck/
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    #525

    Jul 9, 2013, 11:42 AM
    Yea, that's awful. Can't believe you're making light of it.
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    Jul 9, 2013, 11:42 AM
    Federal Panel Wants Controls on Fracking (HAL, SLB, WFT, CPX, KEG, PTEN, RES, SWSIP, BHI, CHK, RRC) - 24/7 Wall St.

    Pressure from producers like Chesapeake and Range Resources is far more likely to have an impact on the services companies than is the threat of federal regulation. The producers have even more to lose than the services companies because if they can't pump gas out of the ground, they lose both the revenue and the lease rights.

    The question the services guys and the producers should be asking themselves is how much less gas would we extract if we used non-toxic chemicals in our fluids. The answer is probably 'Not much.'

    If that's the case, the natural gas industry and the services companies could have avoided a lot of the negative news about hydraulic fracturing. But for some reason, they'd always rather fight than adapt
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    I guess some train wreck are more noticeable than others to some people. So is who to blame when it happens.
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    Jul 9, 2013, 11:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Yea, that's awful. Can't believe you're making light of it.
    YOU brought up train wrecks... not me. (but yeah... it was an aweful event as most are.)

    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What future train wreck are you trying to protect us from now?
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    #528

    Jul 9, 2013, 12:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What future train wreck are you trying to protect us from now?
    Once again you've made my point for me.
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    #529

    Jul 9, 2013, 12:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Federal Panel Wants Controls on Fracking (HAL, SLB, WFT, CPX, KEG, PTEN, RES, SWSIP, BHI, CHK, RRC) - 24/7 Wall St.



    I guess some train wreck are more noticeable than others to some people. So is who to blame when it happens.
    I drank fracking fluid, says (Democratic) Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper
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    Jul 9, 2013, 12:27 PM
    No way that could have been staged could it? Not with all the bucks involved.
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    #531

    Jul 9, 2013, 12:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No way that could have been staged could it? Not with all the bucks involved.
    It seemed to have impressed him and they don't get any more environmentally wacko than in Colorado.

    I find it interesting though that a show of responsibility seems to bother you more than the flat out lies of the Gasland hoaxers.
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    #532

    Jul 9, 2013, 12:54 PM
    Once again you've made my point for me.
    What point is that?
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    Jul 9, 2013, 01:19 PM
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    What point is that?
    Figure it out, you're a smart guy.
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    Jul 9, 2013, 01:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It seemed to have impressed him and they don't get any more environmentally wacko than in Colorado.

    I find it interesting though that a show of responsibility seems to bother you more than the flat out lies of the Gasland hoaxers.
    One case does not a pattern make.

    California Fracking Lawsuit: Judge Slams Obama Administration

    A report issued by Democratic members of the U.S. House of Representatives found that, from 2005 to 2009, energy firms used 29 known or suspected carcinogens in fracking fluid -- the substance they inject under high pressure into the ground to fracture rock formations.
    http://www.oxfordvisionaries.org/pip...frack-almanac/

    http://www.processingmagazine.com/ar...ing-wastewater

    I read a lot more and deeper than you do. Need a link for the shale oil spill in Canada? Or Michigan? They aren't hoaxes and a train wreck that's already happened.
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    #535

    Jul 9, 2013, 01:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    One case does not a pattern make.

    California Fracking Lawsuit: Judge Slams Obama Administration



    http://www.oxfordvisionaries.org/pip...frack-almanac/

    http://www.processingmagazine.com/ar...ing-wastewater

    I read a lot more and deeper than you do. Need a link for the shale oil spill in Canada? Or Michigan? They aren't hoaxes and a train wreck that's already happened.
    I put about as much stock in anti-fracking groups like those who put out the "No-Frack Almanac" as I do those who just outright try and scam us like the Gasland people. And it doesn't take long to read "Page not found."
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    #536

    Jul 9, 2013, 02:50 PM
    Moving on... it's come to this:

    25 years for woman who hid loaded gun in vagina

    And on that note, the pro-abortion crowd in Texas has a new chant. They've moved on from "hail Satan" to poetry:

    "If my vagina was a gun, you would stand for its rights. You would ride on buses and fight its fights."

    I have no words...
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    #537

    Jul 9, 2013, 04:34 PM
    Figure it out, you're a smart guy.
    I don't think you've ever answered a question directly. It's come to that. I have no words.
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    #538

    Jul 9, 2013, 05:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I don't think you've ever answered a question directly. It's come to that. I have no words.
    I don't think you've ever accepted any of my direct answers. You prefer to only try and belittle others.
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    #539

    Jul 9, 2013, 05:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I don't think you've ever answered a question directly. It's come to that. I have no words.
    I don't think you've ever accepted any of my direct answers. You prefer to only try and belittle others. It's always been that.
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    Jul 9, 2013, 05:18 PM
    Natural gas drilling companies sued over fracking wastewater

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