[speechlesstx]

All right, moving on. It's come to this...

Vegan Sellout List

Our Mission.
If you’re no longer vegan, you’re going on the list.

The spirits of the billions murdered have risen to deliver: The Vegan Sellout List – an online directory of those who have regressed from moral consistency to moral depravity.

The Vegan Sellout List is our answer to the epidemic of vegan sellouts – those who are aware of the suffering caused by meat, dairy, egg, fur, and leather production, yet choose to look away while the animals suffer.

Selling out veganism is a trend on the upswing, bringing with it swarms of haughty, nose-turning carnists uttering nonsensical buzzwords re: veganism being “privileged”, or “trendy”, critiquing themselves into ethical degeneracy and paleo-terrorism.

To those who have regressed from veganism, yet display symptoms of a soul not fully blackened to it’s core, we ask you to remind yourself why you were what you were:

And you think we're the wackos.

[NeedKarma]

Who cares what those people do. Seriously, what's the point of bringing them up?

[speechlesstx]

If you aren't interested in the thread feel free to find one that interests you.

[NeedKarma]

Seriously though, what the point of showcasing some internet fringe group and trying to use them to paint "the left" as loony?
That's just freaking ignorant.

[speechlesstx]

Seriously though, what the point of showcasing some internet fringe group and trying to use them to paint "the left" as loony?
That's just freaking ignorant.

I didn't know vegans were all lefties but I've know for some time you have no sense of humor.

Seriously, feel free to find something else that interests you or start your own thread if this doesn't interest you, but you really need another hobby besides trying to humiliate me, you suck at it.

[tomder55]

It's come to this...

Bird watchers "flocked" to Isle of Harris in Scotland because an extremely rare bird ,the White-throated Needletail was spotted (it is called Stormbird in Australia) . Some bird watchers even chartered planes to get a glimpse . The last time one was seen in the area was 22 years ago ;and there have been only eight recorded sightings in the UK since 1846. It is a sight to see as it flys at speeds over 100mph on the strength of it's wings.

But their thrill of viewing was short lived when the bird was killed when it flew into the blades of an environmentally friendly wind turbine.
Needletail 'Bird of the Century' Killed in Wind Turbine Crash - IBTimes UK

Wind turbines kill 570,000 birds each year in the United States alone. More than one of them are in the protected ,endanged species list... including more than one bald eagle and golden eagle; and other necessary predatory birds like hawks and falcons . When they are flying ,they generally are looking down for prey .There is nothing in their evolution that prepared them for a predator like a wind turbine .So they are naturally not prepared for the encounter . To top it off ,many a windmill was constructed in the routes of migratory birds .

I ask you ,what other industry can get away with such destruction of protected species ? When a natural gas power plant was considered in my area ;it was nixed because there were timber rattle snakes in the area. But these so called environmentally friendly wind farms can wack birds faster than Tyson farms . Each death of a protected bird brings down the full wrath of the EPA on oil companies.

Each death is a federal crime, a charge that the Obama administration has used to prosecute oil companies when birds drown in their waste pits, and power companies when birds are electrocuted by their power lines. No wind energy company has been prosecuted, even those that repeatedly flout the law.

Wind power, a pollution-free energy intended to ease global warming, is a cornerstone of President Barack Obama's energy plan. His administration has championed a $1 billion-a-year tax break to the industry that has nearly doubled the amount of wind power in his first term.

The large death toll at wind farms shows how the renewable-energy rush comes with its own environmental consequences, trade-offs the Obama administration is willing to make in the name of cleaner energy...

When companies voluntarily report deaths, the Obama administration in many cases refuses to make the information public, saying it belongs to the energy companies or that revealing it would expose trade secrets or implicate ongoing enforcement investigations.

Nearly all the birds being killed are protected under federal environmental laws, which prosecutors have used to generate tens of millions of dollars in fines and settlements from businesses, including oil and gas companies, over the past five years.

"What it boils down to is this: If you electrocute an eagle, that is bad, but if you chop it to pieces, that is OK," said Tim Eicher, a former U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service enforcement agent based in Cody, Wyo.

Feds quiet as wind farms kill eagles - TwinCities.com

[speechlesstx]

You just can't make that up.

So if you're an environut how do you choose? Wind or wildlife?

[smoothy]

You just can't make that up.

So if you're an environut how do you choose? Wind or wildlife?

Environuts will find a way to blame it not on the Windmills but the imaginary "Global warming"... or for the real nuts... it will lbe George Bushes fault somehow.

Reality and Rationality are two words not in their vocabulary.

[N0help4u]

Well if you consider 1 or 2 toilets per average household of 1 to 6 people to use as needed. But each person in household has own cell yeah it makes sense. I'd say cars fall in between there somewhere and TV's/video players probably equal or exceed cell phones at least in USA.

[N0help4u]

Ahhhhh one of the things I've missed being away from AMHD, the left-right fight.

[tomder55]

Welcome back . Hope all is well .

[smoothy]

well if you consider 1 or 2 toilets per average household of 1 to 6 people to use as needed. But each person in household has own cell yeah it makes sense. I'd say cars fall in between there somewhere and TV's/video players probably equal or exceed cell phones at least in USA.

Being the United states isn't the size of a postage stamp... cars for most people are absolute necessities of life... not a nice to have convenience.

Cell phones etc however are a lot lower on the Have to have list.

[paraclete]

Where is you live again? Cell phones are must have for most of the world where as cars remain a would like to have

[talaniman]

Without a car, and they are expensive to buy and maintain, your employment and economic options and opportunities are severely hindered, and mass transit if you have a good system is time consuming.

[smoothy]

where is you live again? cell phones are must have for most of the world where as cars remain a would like to have

Really... is that cell phone going to get you 20 miles or more to the store and back? Will it get you to work?

Exactly how did humanity manage to survive before the cell phone?

[paraclete]

Most of humanity doesn't think that way in the absence of what we in the first world take for granted they have grasped the affordable technology. I agree if they had a car they might gain employment even if it was as a taxi driver, but we have this stupid idea that we can live miles from our work and waste hours driving back and forth

[Tuttyd]

You just can't make that up.

So if you're an environut how do you choose? Wind or wildlife?

Necessity is usually the mother of invention. No doubt someone will come up with some sort of electronic device that will clear birds from the vicinity of turbines.

[tomder55]

Necessity is usually the mother of invention. No doubt someone will come up with some sort of electronic device that will clear birds from the vicinity of turbines.

Turbines have been around wacking birds for a long time now . The industry would've been shut down a long time ago if it wasn't so PC .

[paraclete]

How many environmentally detrimental idustries can you point to as shut down?

If all the environmentally unfriendly industries in your nation were shutdown you would literally come to a standstill, so let's cut to the chase, there is unintended collateral damage and just now and then a protected species get's in the way of a propellar blade.

I seem to remember the consequence of protecting a species, didn't it shut down a vivrant agricultural industry

[smoothy]

most of humanity doesn't think that way in the absence of what we in the first world take for granted they have grasped the affordable technology. I agree if they had a car they might gain employment even if it was as a taxi driver, but we have this stupid idea that we can live miles from our work and waste hours driving back and forth

Its not a stupid idea... few people can work from home... and not everyone can or wants to live walking distance for their job... which by the way... for most people does change from time to time.

I don't really want to return to the agrarian style of life.