[tomder55]

What is shows is the spinelessness of the Repubics under Speaker Bonehead's leadership. You know that if Waxman was the head of the committee ,he'd be gnawing on the bones of the IRS and White House leaders.

[paraclete]

Tom have you switched allegiences?

[tomder55]

Never did have 'allegiance to the Republic party. I identify with conservatisms, and where the Repubics act like conservatives I support them,and when they don't I oppose.
Speaker Bonehead has been as much a part of the purge the Tea Party as the Democrats .

His next test (which he'll probably fail ) will be in the House consideration of SHAMnesty 2.0... aka the Senate Immigration bill that 14 Repubics voted for (including some Tea Party Repubics who I will have a real hard time supporting in the future. But that discussion is worthy of another OP ) .

[paraclete]

never did have 'allegiance to the Repubic party. I identify with conservatisms, and where the Repubics act like conservatives I support them,and when they don't I oppose.
Speaker Bonehead has been as much a part of the purge the Tea Party as the Democrats .

His next test (which he'll probably fail ) will be in the House consideration of SHAMnesty 2.0 ...aka the Senate Immigration bill that 14 Repubics voted for (including some Tea Party Repubics who I will have a real hard time supporting in the future. But that discussion is worthy of another OP ) .

Ah, so you see Tea Party as conservatives rather than radicals. I think the reform of immigration is just a recognition of reality. It would make a real didn't in your economy to round these people up and send them home but you do need to have people come in an orderly manner. We have similar problems, we don't mind refugees who arrive in an orderly manner but these economic migrants who just tax our resources are a pest or a plague

[tomder55]

Ah, so you see Tea Party as conservatives rather than radicals. I think the reform of immigration is just a recognition of reality. It would make a real dint in your economy to round these people up and send them home but you do need to have people come in an orderly manner. We have similar problems, we don't mind refugees who arrive in an orderly manner but these economic migrants who just tax our resources are a pest or a plague

The people behind this are looking for a cheap source of labor . Ironically this is the same group that complains about outsourcing jobs because of the labor rates overseas.
What they are also not telling us is that under Obamacare, businesses with over 50 workers that employ American citizens without offering them qualifying health insurance could be subject to fines of up to $3,000 per worker. But because newly legalized immigrants under the Senate bill wouldn’t be eligible for subsidies on the health care exchanges until after they become citizens(at least 13 years under the Senate bill )businesses could avoid such fines by hiring the former illegals instead ;and refuse to offer them any health insurance .

[paraclete]

Well Tom I have been saying the same thing and you have taken umbrage at last you have seen the light

[speechlesstx]

Ah, so you see Tea Party as conservatives rather than radicals. I think the reform of immigration is just a recognition of reality. It would make a real dint in your economy to round these people up and send them home but you do need to have people come in an orderly manner. We have similar problems, we don't mind refugees who arrive in an orderly manner but these economic migrants who just tax our resources are a pest or a plague

The Tea Party is not a bunch of radicals, you have bought into the myth.

[NeedKarma]

The Tea Party is funded by big business to be lead to do big business' bidding.

[speechlesstx]

The Tea Party is funded by big business to be lead to do big business' bidding.

That's a lie. There isn't even a central organization to fund or operate from and no two groups are exactly alike except in their common goal of low taxes, smaller government and constitutional fidelity.

[excon]

smaller government

Hello again, Steve:

Let's talk about your "small"government.. First off, you want a pregnancy COP to monitor every pregnancy that happens in this great nation of ours, to INSURE what the GOVERNMENT wants to happen to the girl, is what happens to her... You want to strap her down and shove a thing way up inside her if she wants to seek her LEGAL remedies...

That's going to take a BIG, unbelievably LARGE government to do..

Then you got the NSA who you think should be BIGGER, and look DEEPER into American lives... That too, is going to take a HUGE, unbelievably LARGE government to get done... So, let's get rid of THAT plank right off the top..

And, since we're PROTECTED from those kind of searches BY the Constitution, we can sh1tcan that plank too. I'll concede that the Tea Party wants lower taxes.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

Let's talk about your "small"government.. First off, you want a pregnancy COP to monitor each and every pregnancy that happens in this great nation of ours, to INSURE what the GOVERNMENT wants to happen to the girl, is what happens to her... You wanna strap her down and shove a thing way up inside her if she wants to seek her LEGAL remedies...

That's gonna take a BIG, unbelievably LARGE government to do..

Then you got the NSA who you think should be BIGGER, and look DEEPER into American lives... That too, is gonna take a HUGE, unbelievably LARGE government to get done... So, let's get rid of THAT plank right off the top..

And, since we're PROTECTED from those kind of searches BY the Constitution, we can sh1tcan that plank too. I'll concede that the Tea Party wants lower taxes.

excon

Wow, not even close. You should just ask instead of speaking for me.

[NeedKarma]

That's a lie.

Nope:

Tea Party Funding Koch Brothers Emerge From Anonymity - Peter Fenn (usnews.com)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/op...rich.html?_r=0

Big Tobacco's Tea Party Ties Exposed | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Tea Party movement: deluded and inspired by billionaires | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian

Who's Raising Money For Tea Party Movement? : NPR

[talaniman]

LOL, the TParty is as corrupt and dysfunctional as the rest of us. What a scandal.

[Tuttyd]

That's a lie. There isn't even a central organization to fund or operate from and no two groups are exactly alike except in their common goal of low taxes, smaller government and constitutional fidelity.

You are only considering the internal representation of these groups. Not the political mechanism whereby such group interest is realized.

[talaniman]

Money rules the TParty like it does any other organization in the country. Even if its SECRET money.

[tomder55]

There is no "organization " called "the Tea Party" . They are individual local organizations . In some cases organizations like 'Tea Party Patriots ' and others have received corporate donations no doubt . But they do NOT represent the vast majority of the organizations . There were about 115 of them targeted by the IRS . Why would so many be needed if they were the product of a central organizing foundation ? Even the vast web of Soros controlled groups don't number that many

[talaniman]

Well somebody besides Sarah Palin is using them as a national organization and feeding the locals money and advice, and lawyers. This idea they shouldn't be investigated is ridiculous.

Trust but verify.

[tomder55]

They weren't investigated.. Not even close . They were targeted for the purpose of intentionally stalling their applications ,for the purpose of blunting their impact on the 2012 election . That is an undeniable real case of a systematic campaign of voter suppression by the party in power.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

That is an undeniable real case of a systematic campaign of voter suppression by the party in power.

That WOULD be so, IF it happened. Unfortunately for you and Darrel Issa, you can't PROVE that it did. Until then, you're flapping your gums.

Yawwwwwn.

Excon

[talaniman]

They weren't investigated .. Not even close . They were targeted for the purpose of intentionally stalling their applications ,for the purpose of blunting their impact on the 2012 election . That is an undeniable real case of a systematic campaign of voter suppression by the party in power.

That's what Issa said and now looks foolish since he hasn't proved he was right, and actual evidence proves he was wrong so far. We know you guys never quit hollering your victimhood, while you victimize, though.