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Nov 27, 2012, 05:15 PM
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Of course the undecided might be swayed, but there is media on both sides of the debate. You can't have a negative campaign unless you have some negatives to work with
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Jun 17, 2013, 08:36 AM
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Hello again, tom:
I'll have to read it.. It sounds like the RIGHT decision based on the WRONG reasoning. Kind of like Obamacare, huh? Those Supremes... Got to love 'em.
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:04 AM
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I can see where the right would want to eliminate minorities and poor people from voting. Loss of total social, and economic domination is a humbling experience.
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:06 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
I can see where the right would want to eliminate minorities and poor people from voting. Loss of total social, and economic domination is a humbling experience.
Don't be ridiculous . All we ever asked was for someone voting to prove they were eligible .
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:10 AM
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Well do it constitutionally. Ain't you guys tired of losing in court over this?
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:14 AM
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So in other words, states can set requirements but can't determine if they're satisfied.
Yeah that makes sense.
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:19 AM
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Hello Steve:
If you don't have to be a citizen to vote, what possible requirement could you come up with?
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
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I'm waiting to download and find the time to read his majority opinion. But if the Motor voter law does not require proof of citizenship then there is something REALLY wrong with it .
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:31 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
So in other words, states can set requirements but can't determine if they're satisfied.
Yeah that makes sense.
Makes sense that your requirements meet constitutional ones right?
 Originally Posted by excon
Hello Steve:
If you don't have to be a citizen to vote, what possible requirement could you come up with?
excon
Has to be something that requires something a minority doesn't have... like a house in the burbs or something.
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:34 AM
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Has to be something that requires something a minority doesn't have... like a house in the burbs or something.
Or something a liberal doesn't have... like brains .
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:35 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Well do it constitutionally. Ain't you guys tired of losing in court over this?
Arizona has had this requirement since 1912, it took 101 years to say it wasn't constitutional?
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:41 AM
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or something a liberal doesn't have... like brains .
This is the level of discourse here?
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:47 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
This is the level of discourse here?
Apparently so.
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:49 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
This is the level of discourse here?
It's as legit a comment as Tal's barb about us not wanting minorities to vote.
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Jun 17, 2013, 09:59 AM
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Even the respondents in the case acknowledged the requirements to be eligible to vote, you just can't enforce it. As long as you pinkie swear you're a citizen that's good enough for the left, although if you're a Republican born to American parents in Canada you should be disqualified to run for president.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Jun 17, 2013, 10:02 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
if you're a Republican born to American parents in Canada you should be disqualified to run for president.
You'd be an American, maybe with dual citizenship.
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Jun 17, 2013, 10:06 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
if you're a Republican born to American parents in Canada you should be disqualified to run for president.
Not me. I WANT Ted Cruz to run.
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Jun 17, 2013, 10:10 AM
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You don't and the ruling that struck down the Arizona law was 7-2. Okay I know you guys here may not be the ones my "barbs" are aimed at, but you have to admit republican activities haven't done that well in the courts. This one though if you read the 93 federal law is pretty explicit about registration without citizenship papers, because citizenship is required for most federal programs and benefits already.
Arizona can and has challenged registrations 88% of whom failed to be thrown out and only 19 cases of fraud out of two million were found.
Justices strike down citizenship provision in Arizona voter law - CNN.com
But in a nod to state authority, Scalia said the federal law "does not prevent states from denying registration based on any information in their possession establishing the applicant's eligibility."
The burden of proof lies with the state to prove a person is not a citizen, and not on the citizen to prove he IS.
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Jun 17, 2013, 10:20 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
You don't and the ruling that struck down the Arizona law was 7-2. Okay I know you guys here may not be the ones my "barbs" are aimed at, but you have to admit republican activities haven't done that well in the courts. This one though if you read the 93 federal law is pretty explicit about registration without citizenship papers, because citizenship is required for most federal programs and benefits already.
Arizona can and has challenged registrations 88% of whom failed to be thrown out and only 19 cases of fraud out of two million were found.
Justices strike down citizenship provision in Arizona voter law - CNN.com
The burden of proof lies with the state to prove a person is not a citizen, and not on the citizen to prove he IS.
As I said, Arizona has had that requirement for 101 years. Can you please explain to me the logic in having requirements while banning any mechanism to ensure those requirements are satisfied?
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