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tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 06:37 PM

My boyfriend was charged with criminal mischief November if last year for being in the car when his friend shot at a city hall window with a bb gun. Today he was taken to jail for violations of payments, community service and a class (that he took). They didn't give him a bond, so he's waiting in jail for his po to let him know what she decides. Does anyone have experience who could possibly give me some good news here because I'm freaking out.

smoothy · Jun 10, 2013, 06:59 PM

There isn't much good news... he got in trouble a second time and that compounds the mess he got himself into. They will go much harder on him this time around, because he didn't learn the results of bad choices he made the first time. And his hanging around with this individual was a bad choice.

He's at the mercy of the Judge even more than his PO.

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 07:33 PM

Do you have probation violation experience?

smoothy · Jun 10, 2013, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by tytizzle12

do you have probation violation experience??

You wanted an answer and you got it...

Why do you think they will go easier on him after a second offense that occurred DURING probation?

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 07:39 PM

There wasn't a new charge against him. He was violated for being behind on his payments. Thanks for your OPINION, have a blessed night

smoothy · Jun 10, 2013, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by tytizzle12

there wasnt a new charge against him. he was violated for being behind on his payments. thanks for your OPINION, have a blessed night

Gee... talk about an attitude... if he didn't break any laws or get a new charge then pay tell why did they violate him? And its NOT an OPINION... its a FACT.

Incidentally... HE WAS charged, YOU told us he was... or did you forget that part?

Originally Posted by tytizzle12

My boyfriend was charged with criminal mischief November if last year for being in the car when his friend shot at a city hall window with a bb gun. Today he was taken to jail for violations of payments, community service and a class (that he took). They didnt give him a bond, so he's waiting in jail for his po to let him know what she decides. Does anyone have experience who could possibly give me some good news here because I'm freaking out.

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 07:43 PM

Thanks so much. Once again, have a blessed night!

smoothy · Jun 10, 2013, 07:47 PM

You are one very RUDE person... obvious since you hang out with criminals and have no use for facts.

tytizzle12 (Today 10:41 PM): he's giving his opinion, not facts that he knows Source:i received info from a certified lawyer

Not to mention you being Ignorant... and incorrect.

And incidentally... take YOUR opinion and keep it to yourself... until you learn at least something about the law.

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 07:49 PM

Please stop posting to this question and have a safe, blessed night! THANK YOU!

smoothy · Jun 10, 2013, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by tytizzle12

please stop posting to this question and have a safe, blessed night! THANK YOU!

You don't have the right to make that demand... if you had taken the time to read the site rules and the terms of service you agreed to BEFORE you were allowed to post... you might have learned that... besides the fact your behavior thus far is not appreciated...

I can post as much as I want... and so can anyone else... you don't get to tell anyone to stop posting. And you better get a grip on that attitude... if you knew all the answers then what are you here asking for.

You get the answers you NEED to hear... not the ones you want to hear.

Wondergirl · Jun 10, 2013, 08:03 PM

Is this correct? Your boyfriend's first offense was the criminal mischief last November. As punishment he had to take a class, make payments, and do community service.

Now he is guilty of probation violation with missed payments and missed community service time, although he did take the class.

He is now in jail and you are wondering what his PO might decide.

Is this the correct sequence of events?

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 08:06 PM

Yes, that's correct.

Wondergirl · Jun 10, 2013, 08:09 PM

I was a community work site supervisor for over ten years and worked closely with POs. I'm wondering why your boyfriend missed payments and why he skipped out on community service hours.

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 08:12 PM

Well the reason he missed community service was because he was always working during the day. He didn't miss payment, he made payments every month, they just weren't enough to keep him up to date.

smoothy · Jun 10, 2013, 08:19 PM

His first responsibility was to make the payments... BEFORE he spends it on other things... and why didn't he work with the PO to work with the scheduling of the Community service. People manage to do both every day... even if its not easy or convenient. And people get violated every day for deciding to not do it for any number of reasons.

The purpose of both of those besides restitution and punishment... is to teach them to do as they are told... and develop discipline.

Wondergirl · Jun 10, 2013, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by tytizzle12

Well the reason he missed community service was because he was always working during the day. He didnt miss payment, he made payments every month, they just weren't enough to keep him up to date.

And he didn't think to talk this over with the PO before it all got out of hand? He was given a good deal to do community service after his first offense, and it was his responsibility to follow through or let the PO know he couldn't for whatever reason. Another work site or a second work site could have been arranged.

And the payment situation (not the amount) could have been adjusted had he conferred with his PO. He could have paid more often or borrowed the money he didn't have, etc.

Why didn't your boyfriend discuss this with his PO?

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 08:22 PM

He told me that he did, and that she told him to get his schedule in to her. The next time he saw here was this time which he was violated on,

Wondergirl · Jun 10, 2013, 08:29 PM

Was there a big delay in getting his schedule to her? It sounds like he was being very irresponsible with not only skipping his hours but also not paying enough of the monthly amounts. The PO is going to assess whether he was copping an attitude or being totally irresponsible (i.e. didn't really give a hoot) or what. I don't know what was discussed at the beginning of probation, but usually all this is laid out to the offender and he is told he must report to the PO if there are any difficulties. Your boyfriend didn't do this apparently.

The PO is going to weigh all this and consider your boyfriend's attitude and behavior.

tytizzle12 · Jun 10, 2013, 08:35 PM

Right, I mean I know it sounds like a lot of excuses, but this has been an extremely hard year so far for him. I know he has been irresponsible so far, but he doesn't have one of those attitudes like he doesn't care. He's a really good dad, and that's all he thinks about. Is there anything I can do to help him at all in this situation?

Wondergirl · Jun 10, 2013, 08:44 PM

What the PO is looking at is your boyfriend's initial irresponsibility back in November. He was given a sweet deal to redeem himself without being sent to jail, but that apparently (the PO is thinking) wasn't enough to teach him responsibility. He has now taken that reprieve and offended on TWO levels, the payments and the work hours.

The PO might give him more hours and change his work site if she thinks he honestly was overwhelmed, but it could end up in a jail sentence instead.

I do not have any idea what you can do to help him. The PO probably has a good handle on him and how he avoids responsibility (or he just got overwhelmed). His being a good father isn't part of the deal. I have never met a PO who was a pushover if an offender was having a "bad year."