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NeedKarma · May 13, 2013, 11:33 AM

Why are "patriots" and "tea party" people applying for tax exemption?

speechlesstx · May 13, 2013, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Why are "patriots" and "tea party" people applying for tax exemption?

Because they can.

tomder55 · May 13, 2013, 11:54 AM

Why does Media Matters get a tax break ?

smoothy · May 13, 2013, 11:56 AM

Why does Hollywood get tax breaks with the billions they rake in?

Why does any number of lefty groups get tax breaks... like Move-on.org Planned Parenthood, and the SOuthern Poverty Law center... CAIR, La RAZA, etc...

NeedKarma · May 13, 2013, 11:58 AM

Those are companies. I was referring to individuals.

Edit : NM I see they are orgs too. Sorry.

smoothy · May 13, 2013, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Those are companies. I was referring to individuals.

Not when you name TEA PARTY or PATRIOT groups... those are NO different than any of the groups I mentioned...

Because part of the criminal actions of the IRS was to get people to name individuals illegally... so they can be individually singled out for harassment additionally by the IRS under Obamas orders... and its going to come back to Obama and his flunkies... because this is purely political in nature.

NeedKarma · May 13, 2013, 12:53 PM

so they can be individually singled out for harassment additionally by the IRS under Obamas orders

You're funny when you make stuff up. LOL.

excon · May 14, 2013, 09:55 AM

Hello again,

Right wing Utah Republican wants to keep "illegals" out except when hiring them as butlers, nannies or maids.

Please, think of the rich and their need for cheap labor. What are they to do without their poorly paid illegal immigrant servants? Those rich folks NEED their houses cleaned..

excon

smoothy · May 14, 2013, 09:59 AM

How about including a clause that prohibits any new people (illegal aliens) that gain citizenship from being allowed to vote for 25 years if this isn't all about politics and votes.

talaniman · May 14, 2013, 10:08 AM

What ever you wingers come up with it better be good because what you say and do is watched by millions, who aren't wingers.

smoothy · May 14, 2013, 10:17 AM

See I was right... its all about buying votes... you don't give a damn about the people...

Otherwise you would think it's a great way to prove its not about buying votes.

speechlesstx · May 14, 2013, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Right wing Utah Republican wants to keep "illegals" out except when hiring them as butlers, nannies or maids.

Please, think of the rich and their need for cheap labor. What are they to do without their poorly paid illegal immigrant servants? Those rich folks NEED their houses cleaned..

excon

Dude, that's been part of Democrat argument for amnesty for a long time, to do those jobs Americans won't do. I believe you've used it.

Meanwhile, the plot thickens as a pattern emerges. The EPA also follows the IRS double standard, they waived fees for FOIA requests from green groups 92% of the time while rejecting such requests from conservative groups 93% of the time.

The FCC followed the same pattern and the Department of Homeland Security politicized such requests as well.

So much for the new era of transparency Obama would usher in... along with free speech, free press, privacy, government neutrality...

tomder55 · May 14, 2013, 11:40 AM

It's a stupid amendment... except for one proviso . If someone hires the kid down the street to mow the lawn every week ;or the teenage girl across the street to baby sit ;should it really be necessary to go through e-verify ? The amendment like most of the bills that get passed is probably poorly worded and not specific enough .

paraclete · May 15, 2013, 05:10 AM

You know I would like to believe you but what you are saying is government and politicians are unprofessional, I find that hard to believe

tomder55 · May 15, 2013, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

you know I would like to believe you but what you are saying is government and politicians are unprofessional, I find that hard to believe

The body of evidence supports my position. These jerks don't even read the amendments and bills that are crafted in their name . They hire flunkies that know how to write in legalese . Only when someone else dissects the written manure do they realize that they screwed up .

paraclete · May 15, 2013, 07:14 AM

Strange system

talaniman · May 15, 2013, 07:21 AM

People who don't believe in government for everybody and those that want rich people to rule over others are making it not only strange but weird and vastly ineffective.

Its all about who has power and control over the money like it always is.

smoothy · May 15, 2013, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

People who don't believe in government for everybody and those that want rich people to rule over others are making it not only strange but weird and vastly ineffective.

Its all about who has power and control over the money like it always is.

More proof the left doesn't believe the GOvernment is for everyone... they feel its just for them... and they should force the people they hate to foot all of the bills... but Oh... they don't have a say because they don't have any rights like the Illuminatti do.

I.E. they want the Welfare bums to run everything and tell the people who actually work and pay taxes how much THEIR FAIR SHARE is even though they contribute nothing themselves.

talaniman · May 15, 2013, 07:43 AM

No smoothy my statement isn't proof of your position, that's your own twisted spin so you can holler about who deserves what but fact is rich guys have gotten richer and more people have gotten poor because that's what you guys believe in.

The few over the many because you think you are better than the rest of us.

speechlesstx · May 15, 2013, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

People who don't believe in government for everybody and those that want rich people to rule over others are making it not only strange but weird and vastly ineffective.

Jon Stewart has an answer to that today, too, in relation to the IRS scandal...

“This has, in one seismic moment, shifted the burden of proof from the tin foil behatted to the government. The VA claims backlog and the bounced checks and foreclosure clusterf**k had already given government competence fetishists fits. And now this. In a few short weeks, you’ve managed to show that when the government wants to do good things, your managerial competence falls somewhere between David Brent and a cat chasing a laser pointer. But when government wants to flex its more malevolent muscles, YOU’RE F**KIN’ IRON MAN!!”

He's absolutely right, but I think it goes further. I don't believe for a minute the left wants government for everyone, even your statement belies that notion. The left wants government for them, they give a crap about those who don't walk in lockstep with them.

What this past week has so ably demonstrated is we have damned good and obvious reasons for not trusting government, yet you apparently can't see that? In my opinion you're just upset that this administration's deception, incompetence, and abuse of powers has set your agenda back.