[tomder55]

If they were trying to "cover up" their mistakes, they didn't do a very good job of it because within 3 or 4 days, EVERYBODY knew we were attacked by terrorists.. And, Obama STILL kicked Romney's a$$.

They maintained the false narrative about a YouTube video for over 2 weeks. They went with this campaign narrative that AQ was on the run ,especially since they wacked OBL... You recall that in the debate about foreign policy Romney brought up the lie ;and Candy Crowley basically lied and said the Emperor called it a terrorist attack... and still they went on with the false narrative for as long as the press could cover for them.
Not only did the Emperor participate in the lie... I'm sure the facts will show he directed it !
The talking points were changed a number of times before Susan Rice hit the Sunday talk shows.
Now as you recall ,Nixon also directed a similar cover up to stall for time before the 1972 election. This is not quite Watergate.. it will not bring the Emperor down. I just want the public to know all the facts because they are key to future foreign policy decisions this "Commander in Chief " will make in the future.

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:


I dunno what's going on.. Lindsay Graham just said on TV that the blockbuster is the "political spin" Obama put on the attack. He said he was trying to bolster his claim that Al Quaida was decimated...

Blockbuster????

You also, tom, appear to be talking about POLITICS instead CRIME and COVERUP, and IMPEACHMENT, and SCANDAL.. So, if you want my agreement about the politics, you got it.

excon

PS> (edited) You have SOME resource for your claim that the CIA was acting like White House plumbers, or something.. Would you SHARE that source?

I don't know if or any crimes will be revealed .

[talaniman]

Be nice if you could knock Obama down a few pegs before the mid terms and get the high flying ex Sec. of State back to earth before 2016. Benghazi is an attractive rock to throw.

I saw Lindsay and he blasts BO on his light foot print in the middle east. He and McCain, and they want WAR, doesn't matter with who because they have a list. You better let those Arabs handle their own mess.

[paraclete]

I agree Tal let the arabs handle their own mess and let the Israeli's handle theirs too

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

They maintained the false narrative about a YouTube video for over 2 weeks.

Even IF they did, it's POLITICAL spin - NOT a coverup. I'm sure Frank Luntz said to use the "cover up" words, just like he told you to use the "government takeover" words..

You say Nixon did the same thing.. NO he didn't. He covered up a CRIME.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Be nice if you could knock Obama down a few pegs before the mid terms and get the high flying ex Sec. of State back to earth before 2016. Benghazi is an attractive rock to throw.

I saw Lindsay and he blasts BO on his light foot print in the middle east. he and McCain, and they want WAR, doesn't matter with who because they have a list. You better let those Arabs handle their own mess.

LOL, Barack has already knocked himself down a few pegs, and if you don't want WAR you might ask your Emperor to stop ad-libbing his way into one.

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:
Even IF they did, it's POLITICAL spin - NOT a coverup. I'm sure Frank Luntz said to use the "cover up" words, just like he told you to use the "government takeover" words..

You say Nixon did the same thing.. NO he didn't. He covered up a CRIME.

excon

Again ,it remains to be seen if there was a crime. I guess there was no purpose for the 9-11 Commission . Why should the American people know where the break down was ,or if there was one. Maybe not a cover up... who knows ? Maybe just a stone wall. I called it a 'white wash '

[paraclete]

White wash is common in the arab world

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Why should the American people know where the break down was ,or if there was one.

Oh, I'm all for finding out WHO made mistakes, and ferreting them out.

But, when Issa says that there's "No question" Clinton's circle is INVOLVED in the Benghazi "cover-up", he's NOT looking for answers. He's conducting a witch hunt..

Excon

[smoothy]

Obama and Hillary both need to go to jail over Benghazigate. 4 people died over their gross incompetence.

[tomder55]

It wasn't a cover up .It was a blatant lie to the American people that they repeated for as long as they could get away with it. If there is a cover up ,it is in State Dept.(Accountability Review Board's lies ) But
I'm looking for more . I want at least a special committee appointed ,if not a special prosecutor . There are accountability issues that demand answers from the military chain of command. Who told the special forces in Tripoli to stand down as they were boarding a plane to Benghazi.. less than 2 hrs away (more than enough time to be there in the 2nd wave of attacks )? Who told the commander in Aviano Italy to not deploy his F-16s and apache helicopters (they could've made the court yard a litter of dead enemy jihadists )? A “FAST team” (Fleet Anti-terrorism Security team) of Marines from Rota, Spain, were sent to guard the Embassy in Tripoli ,but not assist where they were needed .
A Special Operations force was moved from central Europe to Sigonella Air Base in southern Italy, just 480 miles from Benghazi ,but were not sent into action
Asked why the military did not do more, Sec Def Leon Panetta said the 'first rule in such a situation is not to deploy troops into harm's way unless there is a clear picture of what is happening'. Here was the picture he needed . A US ambassador called screaming that the compound was under attack . There were CIA ops and special forces ops on the scene reporting the nature of the attack up the chain of command.In fact an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up was made during the attack. Now either the chain of command made the call on their own not to assist... OR the White House made the call . Someone made the call . WE the people need to know who .

The Obots want to avoid responsibility for this .Why was the FBI given the lead ? Why was the cite of the attack not secured to prevent compromising evidence and loss of possible intelligence information? The FBI didn't make it there for weeks after the attack! How is it that CNN managed to get there are recover Ambassador Stevens journal but the FBI couldn't ? Too many unanswered questions for this one posting . But all questions we need to know the truth about.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

It wasn't a cover up .

No, it wasn't..

I'd like to know the answer to those questions too, but Issa isn't the one to ask them. I'd support a special commission.

But, to repeat what you're saying. There's no crime, no coverup, no scandal, no underhandedness at ALL, UNLESS it can be proven in front of an unbiased committee or court of law. Until that time, all the talk about WATER/BENGHAZIGATE, is nothing more than Republicans flapping their gums..

Excon

[smoothy]

It this wasn't a coverup... then Watergate wasn't either.

[talaniman]

Just a bit of logic to go with the politics. Why would you spend all that money to protect many embassies and have one lone guy go to what he knew was a low security mission, on a day they had been gearing up for all along?

And your retort and outrage is to take those guys from the embassy and run to the mission? Where does that leave the embassy? He should have been in Tripoli on this particular 9/11. They all should have been.

I mean we already know Benghazi was a poor security risk, and maybe Hillary doesn't want to admit he had orders to get where its safe and get your head down. Sorry but the decision to even be in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11 was a bad decision for any reason and it had tragic results.

Sadly his faith in the his Libyan friends was misplaced because when tested they ran.

[smoothy]

What's more sad is he had faith in his own State dept and government... Ultimately that's who was responsible for their security and safety. Not Libya.

Owebama couldn't have cared less... and the Sec of State Hillary was drunk as a skunk... neither of those were acceptable.

THe outright lies that followed deserve legal action against those responsible for NOT doing anything.

It was the height of arrogance for them to think most people would believe it was some dumb U-tube video... only the pathetic crowd bought into that lame excuse.

[tomder55]

Just a bit of logic to go with the politics. Why would you spend all that money to protect many embassies and have one lone guy go to what he knew was a low security mission, on a day they had been gearing up for all along?
And your retort and outrage is to take those guys from the embassy and run to the mission? Where does that leave the embassy? He should have been in Tripoli on this particular 9/11. They all should have been.

Why indeed?. now you are getting closer to where I'm at .What would be so important that he would travel to a place he knew was a risk (it had been attacked before )... This after he begged for more protection ;to meet with a Turkish representative in secret ? What did a Turkish rep have to do with Libya ? Could it be that he was funnelling Libyan weapons to anti-Assad rebels (jiihadists ) through Turkey ?
How US Ambassador Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked To Jihadist Rebels In Syria - Business Insider

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:

No, it wasn't..

I'd like to know the answer to those questions too, but Issa isn't the one to ask them. I'd support a special commission.

But, to repeat what you're saying. There's no crime, no coverup, no scandal, no underhandedness at ALL, UNLESS it can be proven in front of an unbiased committee or court of law. Until that time, all the talk about WATER/BENGHAZIGATE, is nothing more than Republicans flapping their gums..

excon

And Watergate was nothing but a two-bit burglary

[speechlesstx]

And this is perhaps the most important angle to cover on the hearings...

[tomder55]

PS> (edited) You have SOME resource for your claim that the CIA was acting like White House plumbers, or something.. Would you SHARE that source?

Fair enough . Found this article in October by former CIA Claire Lopez .It is properly linked with major news outlet reports as her sources. She just connects the dots .
Family Security Matters

I also think CIA and our counter-terrorism czar (who is now the CIA Director) John Brennan were not on the same page in Libya. While Petraeus and Stevens had a relationship with groups that were involved in the exchange of weapons; Brennan was using Joint Special Operations Command assets throughout Africa, the Middle East, and Southwest Asia striking at the same groups that Stevens was dealing with. I believe that retailation for one of these strikes was the real motivation for the attack on Stevens.

[excon]

Hello...

HELLO... The blockbuster hearing happened... How come you're not crowing about the coverup that was revealed?

excon