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    #61

    May 4, 2013, 06:34 AM
    The Dems negotiated amongst themselves trying to bring in the blue dogs who were reluctant . It's pure nonsense to claim any Republic ideas were considered. As you recall. Zero told us all to go to the back of the bus.
    "We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”
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    May 5, 2013, 11:28 AM
    He was right since you proved you couldn't drive worth a darn. So get to the back of the bus and out of the way.
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    May 5, 2013, 12:10 PM
    I rest my case.. Let's dispel with the nonsense that the Dems negotiated this deal with the Repubics . The Dems only negotiated with themselves.
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    May 5, 2013, 12:27 PM
    Repubs are not only bad drivers of an economy, but negotiations are not a strong suit either. Both claims are backed by facts, events, and actions. So I rest my case also.
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    May 6, 2013, 05:26 AM
    This is a debate that never ends, around and around and around we go and where we will come out no one knows. Is all your politics like this; endless debate and no solution?

    What a mess!
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    May 6, 2013, 06:03 AM
    Yeah things shoved down our throats normally go unresolved... much like the abortion debate.
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    May 6, 2013, 06:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Repubs are not only bad drivers of an economy, but negotiations are not a strong suit either. Both claims are backed by facts, events, and actions. So I rest my case also.
    You can't negotiate from the back of the bus. What's funny is it's Zero that sucks at it so much Dems have cut him out of negotiations.
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    May 6, 2013, 06:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    He was right since you proved you couldn't drive worth a darn. So get to the back of the bus and out of the way.
    The person that can't drive woth a damn in behind the wheel of the bus right now... hitting every car parked along side BOTH sides of the road.
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    May 6, 2013, 09:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yeah things shoved down our throats normally go unresolved ...much like the abortion debate.
    Just swallow, and we can get a resolution. I know that gag reflex gets in the way, but we tried to be gentle.

    Should we shove harder? We can you know or did you miss he last election?

    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You can't negotiate from the back of the bus. What's funny is it's Zero that sucks at it so much Dems have cut him out of negotiations.
    That's why we refused to go to the back of the bus AGAIN and let you guys drive anymore. We have had enough of right wing reckless driving! If you won't talk to Obama, then talk to the hand(S)!

    Its hard o swallow AND holler isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The person that can't drive woth a damn in behind the wheel of the bus right now.....hitting every car parked along side BOTH sides of the road.
    If you stop trying to grab the steering wheel back we could stay on the road better. Just swallow a little and it will help everybody A LOT!! Even you guys.

    Just sayin'!!
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    #70

    May 6, 2013, 09:28 AM
    Your comments are really revealing today, Tal. Obviously it's your way or the highway. Sorry dude, this is my country, too.
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    #71

    May 6, 2013, 09:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    If you stop trying to grab the steering wheel back we could stay on the road better. Just swallow a little and it will help everybody A LOT!!!!!!!!!! Even you guys.

    Just sayin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    He had complete control for his first two years... and that's when ithis started.

    The man is a menace... and a threat to this country... what he needs is locked up. Not handed the keys to the dealership.

    He's only a president... not a KIng... and certainly NOT the Messiah.
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    May 6, 2013, 11:24 AM
    He had complete control for his first two years... and that's when ithis started.

    Despite YOUR bet efforts, he got the bus out of the ditch, and changed the flat tires. The bus crash started way before he got to town

    The man is a menace... and a threat to this country... what he needs is locked up. Not handed the keys to the dealership.

    You have been saying that since before he took office.

    He's only a president... not a KIng... and certainly NOT the Messiah.

    That's what we have been telling you guys but of course you don't believe it. But YOU keep saying he's a savior or whatever.

    Seems all the rock throwing and hollering you guys do was for nothing since he got re-elected, but you guys haven't changed one bit. same ol' same ol'.
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    #73

    May 6, 2013, 11:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    He had complete control for his first two years.....and thats when ithis started.

    Despite YOUR bet efforts, he got the bus out of the ditch, and changed the flat tires. The bus crash started way before he got to town

    The man is a menace...and a threat to this country...what he needs is locked up. Not handed the keys to the dealership.

    You have been saying that since before he took office.

    He's only a president...not a KIng...and certainly NOT the Messiah.

    That's what we have been telling you guys but of course you don't believe it. But YOU keep saying he's a savior or whatever.

    Seems all the rock throwing and hollering you guys do was for nothing since he got re-elected, but you guys haven't hanged one bit. same ol' same ol'.
    Tats a delusional belief... we had far more people that actually had jobs whe Bush lest oiffice than we have 4 years later... and we had FAR less debt.

    That bus was run into the ditch and off the cliff both.
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    #74

    May 6, 2013, 11:39 PM
    You forgot who steered the bus into the ditch, BO was set up to fail and you are still poisoning the chalice
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    #75

    May 11, 2013, 05:29 AM
    The same HHS secretary that campaigned for Zero in her official capacity is now extorting money for Zerocare from those her agency regulates to implement this disaster.

    Budget request denied, Sebelius turns to health executives to finance Obamacare

    There is obviously no shame in this administration.
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    #76

    May 11, 2013, 05:58 AM
    There is no shame in Republican obstruction is more to the point. Can't repeal the law, won't replace it if you did, so starve the beast. I thought you were all for community health centers?
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    #77

    May 11, 2013, 06:08 AM
    You still act as if Republicans have been running the show. Regardless, what part of conflict of interest do you not get? There is apparently no wrong this admin can do that fazes you, and I'm guessing no justification for the law too stupid. This Dem thinks Zerocare will prevent bad marriages.

    Dem Congresswoman: Obamacare Will Improve Marriages | RealClearPolitics
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    May 11, 2013, 06:38 AM
    Lets be very clear, Republicans run nothing in congress they OBSTRUCT progress period.

    Marriages without the financial burdens of rapidly rising health concerns/costs may be a good thing. Why isn't it?

    Now how about those community centers? Not for profit community centers to get people enrolled in health insurance programs instead of you and me footing the bill?
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    #79

    May 11, 2013, 06:53 AM
    Apparently you don't understand conflict of interest.. or don't care how corrupt your government is. I'm guessing the latter.
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    May 11, 2013, 07:26 AM
    Asking for support for community centers to educate the uninsured about getting insured is a conflict of interest? Really?

    But republican obstruction to getting people wellness isn't? Obstructing poor people from getting wellness isn't a conflict of interest? Shrinking government for citizens to grow more profits for rich guys isn't a conflict of interest?

    You have life and BS all mixed up.

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