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    #41

    Apr 23, 2013, 06:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Why can you not put the jihadists in the same category as Phelps, A$$HOLES? There are 2.2 billion Muslims and if they wanted a war, there would be one yet you denigrate the many by the actions of the few.

    That's what makes your question prejudicial, and irrelevant. The problem isn't religion, its the a$$holes that claim the religion. Or there part of it.
    It's not prejudicial, it's FACTUAL. What's prejudicial is equating Christians that haven't killed anyone in the name of their religion with Islamists who have. You guys just cannot get it into your head that these terrorist are slaughtering innocents on behalf of and in the name of their god. Why can't you admit that?
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    Apr 23, 2013, 06:58 AM
    When you admit that Christians are pedophiles, and baby killers.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 07:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    When you admit that Christians are pedophiles, and baby killers.
    Dude, try something that hasn't been done to death. How many times do you have to hear us condemn pedophilia in the church before you drop that bullsh*t line? And if you're referring to abortion you know as well as anyone, in fact your side preaches it on a regular basis, that's a choice the individual woman makes. My church publicly and unashamedly stands against abortion, we don't dictate how people live their lives.

    Your turn.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:18 AM
    While y'all are still trying to come up with a real answer to my question, chew on this The DNC and its chairperson Debbie Downer is already using the Boston bombing to build their email list - under the guise of thanking the first responders.

    Battenfeld: Political ploy masked as gratitude? No thank you

    I know most of you won't take issue with such a crass political ploy, so carry on.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:23 AM
    This is a classic “data mining” technique
    Yep, used by every single consumer-centric corporation and most retail stores and most websites. It is 100% voluntary opt-in - don't like it?. then don't use that website!
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    #46

    Apr 23, 2013, 09:24 AM
    Thanks for the obvious.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:25 AM
    No problem, I noticed you had missed it.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    No problem, I noticed you had missed it.
    Actually, that was the "under the guise" part of my post.
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    #49

    Apr 23, 2013, 09:30 AM
    I think most consumers are wise enough to know what's going on when they are asked for their email and postal code.
    That's how we target advertising for the markets and consumer profiles we want to hit. Then again when buying something cash at a store and I'm asked for any personal info I decline and say 'cash sale' please.
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    #50

    Apr 23, 2013, 10:23 AM
    The topic would be the ethics of Democrats exploiting a terrorist attack.

    Since that doesn't seem to be an ethical issue to you back to my question, what other religions beside Islam are spawning terrorists that maim, kill and cause mass physical destruction?
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    #51

    Apr 23, 2013, 10:32 AM
    Wondergirl gave you an answer way back here: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3448203
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    #52

    Apr 23, 2013, 10:57 AM
    Uh huh, and I responded. Back to my question, what other religions beside Islam are spawning terrorists that maim, kill and cause mass physical destruction? Not 'Christian' identity groups, militant Cuban exiles, pathetic anti-abortion idiots, moronic a$$holes pretending to be a church, or leftist environment groups (though I find it interesting she would list a spawn of Obama's pal Bill Ayers' group in there).

    Let me answer that for you, there are none.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 11:01 AM
    So it's the religion to blame and not the fundamentalists who subvert it?
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    Apr 23, 2013, 11:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    So its the religion to blame and not the fundamentalists who subvert it?
    Christianity has love as it's foundation and it's mission is to persuade the world through love in it's founder's example and in the name of their God. Those who do otherwise have subverted our religion.

    Islam's mission is to conquer the world by bringing every man, woman and child into submission to Islam, voluntarily or by force, in it's founder's example and in the name of their god. Those who do so are just following their leader.
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    #55

    Apr 23, 2013, 11:38 AM
    Both religions have strayed from their path. I agree that Islam fundamentalists are the more dangerous of the two.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 03:47 PM
    Hello Steve:

    what other religions beside Islam are spawning terrorists that maim, kill and cause mass physical destruction?
    If you were an ORDINARY peaceful Pakistani, you'd say CHRISTIANS are terrorists who maim and kill. Why wouldn't he be right? Terror from the sky is TERROR, whether it happens in NY City, or Northern Waziristan.

    You DO think we're a Christian nation, don't you? Why shouldn't HE think the same thing?

    Excon
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    #57

    Apr 23, 2013, 04:12 PM
    (4) Is Russia going to help us find out what the dead terrorist was DOING when he went there?

    (5) Should the live one be tried by military tribunal or by the federal court?

    (6) Should Miranda be read to him? If so, when?
    I think Lindsey Graham ,John McCain should read the laws they pass. The 2012 National Defense Authorization Act says "a person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners" are eligible for military detention. So far there is no evidence that would justify that definition.
    Graham and McCain have spent most of the last decade trying to confer constitutional due process rights on unlawful foreign enemy combatants .It is amusing to watch their sudden conversion.
    I think the Justice Dept had best tread cautiously on the issue of the delayed Miranda reading too. The case against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is rock solid . The only thing that could derail it is a procedural snafu.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 05:50 PM
    Hey He's an american, you are just going to have to live with that. That he wasn't born there or perhaps didn't spend his formative years there? Well that's cancelled out by his mind altering religion.

    Who cares anyway, he should be treated as he treated others, made to stand in front of a pressure cooker bomb full of ball bearings and nails. If you stopped your namby pamby ways maybe you would have less of this sort of thing
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    #59

    Apr 23, 2013, 08:13 PM
    Two things, The Boston bomber was estranged from his own family, and Muslim community, and the Canadians were tipped off by Muslim clerics of the loon who was going to blow up trains.

    A loon is dangerous from any religion, and the religion is but a dressing for a dark mind. There are a lot of psychopaths out there.
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    Apr 24, 2013, 06:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Two things, The Boston bomber was estranged from his own family, and Muslim community, and the Canadians were tipped off by Muslim clerics of the loon who was going to blow up trains.

    A loon is dangerous from any religion, and the religion is but a dressing for a dark mind. There are a lot of psychopaths out there.
    Come on admit it, you think it's our fault.

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