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smoothy · Mar 20, 2013, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Big deal we already have a Chinese population, nice people, industrious and your geography needs updating, this continent will not support hundreds of millions of people and in any case you can't walk here. You are more likely to have a problem with Chinese than we are once they decide they want their money back

China has massive amounts of water this is why they can support the population they have, we don't, water supply is already becoming a problem dispite recent flooding. This is a very dry place and only a relatively small area is arable two hundred miles from the coast, maybe

Wait until they have a few hundred million move a lot further south and be willing to work for a fraction what you Australians make... bet you change your tune then...

Here 30 years ago construction work was once a good paying job a white English speaking person could do and raise a family on... today you can't even get a job unless you speak Spanish... and the actual pay is half what it was 30 years ago without even considering the inflation in that time.

That can happen to you far easier than you may want to accept.

paraclete · Mar 20, 2013, 06:03 PM

Update, it did happen to us, this is why our economy booms today, we made the adjustments. I spent years as an executive with no change in my pay while industry after industry went through adjustment, merger, or contracted out offshore.

smoothy · Mar 20, 2013, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

update, it did happen to us, this is why our economy booms today, we made the adjustments. I spent years as an executive with no change in my pay while industry after industry went through adjustment, merger, or contracted out offshore.

If you have money for a house , car and internet... it didn't happen to the level I'm talking about. Or as widespread as I'm talking about.

Between the Chinese and the Indians (as in from India) there really isn't much someone wouldn't be wiling to take for 1/4 the pay you get now or less... get enough of that... and everything else will collapse around it...

Then everyone can look forward to a Calcutta-like existence.

paraclete · Mar 20, 2013, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

If you have money for a house , car and internet...it didn't happen to the level I'm talking about. Or as widespread as I'm talking about.

Between the Chinese and the Indians (as in from India) there really isn't much someone wouldn't be wiling to take for 1/4 the pay you get now or less...get enough of that....and everything else will collapse around it....

Then everyone can look forward to a Calcutta-like existence.

I don't get any pay now, I pay myself thing is people come here so they don't have to live in calcutta

smoothy · Mar 20, 2013, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

i don't get any pay now, I pay myself thing is people come here so they don't have to live in calcutta

When you get some Indian or CHinese type or more like several setting up shop doing the same thing you do nearby but charging a 1/4 what you do now.. you will, nobody is unique in what they have to offer.. and when average wages start to fall as a result of deflation... everyone is effected.

Everyone likes to think they are unique and indispensable... fact is nobody is... not me.. not you... not anyone, and some are much more dispensable than others.

paraclete · Mar 20, 2013, 10:36 PM

Won't happen, these populations fit in and assimilate unlike muslims

As to been dispensible could we promote you to head of the list

smoothy · Mar 21, 2013, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

won't happen, these populations fit in and assimilate unlike muslims

as to been dispensible could we promote you to head of the list

You already hold that position.

Most groups assimilate when they are in small enough numbers... when those numbers reach a tipping point they start pushing THEIR ways on everyone else.

talaniman · Mar 21, 2013, 06:24 AM

Is that the problem Smoothy? Changing demographics here are making assimilation difficult?

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2013, 05:18 AM

And you thought this whitewash was over... the unreasonable CBS reporter that was on the receiving end of an admin tirade for thinking this was a story reports multiple new whistleblowers have come forward.

House investigators talking to new Benghazi whistleblowers - CBS News

smoothy · Apr 18, 2013, 05:28 AM

Good I'm glad that isn't being swept under the carpet. We are entitled to answers... REAL ONES.

tomder55 · Apr 18, 2013, 06:12 AM

Wonder if they have access to any of the 30+ people rescued ? I haven't even heard any of their names yet.

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2013, 06:17 AM

Finally, there may be some traction here. Darrell Issa told the CIA to get some lawyers ready.

Lawyer up, Issa warns CIA staff

House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) is pushing ahead with his investigation of last year’s fatal attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, by preparing federal agencies to allow employees to lawyer up.

In separate letters to the legal offices of the CIA, State Department and Defense Department, Issa said some witnesses on the issue might need lawyers, if their agencies decide to retaliate against them for their testimony.

“During the course of the investigation, numerous individuals have approached the committee with information related to the attack,” wrote Issa in the letters, which were obtained by The Hill.

He asked agencies to provide details on how to grant outside attorneys the security clearances necessary for them to adequately represent employees discussing classified matters with congressional investigators.

“Some witnesses may be required to retain personal counsel to represent them before the committee and in the event the agency subsequently retaliates against them for cooperating with the committee’s investigation,” he said.

“Additional witnesses may be compelled by subpoena to give testimony to the committee and can be reasonably expected to retain personal counsel at that time.”

The letters are the latest sign that Issa is ramping up his investigation of the Benghazi attack and potential security and managerial failures that led up to it. He initially launched the probe last year, about a month after the attack.

He specifically warned these agencies against retaliation:

Issa also warned the agencies against taking negative action toward any employees that help his panel with its investigation.

“[I]t is important that the agency makes clear to its employees that they are free to furnish information to Congress in accordance with their statutory rights,” wrote Issa.

“Additionally, retaliation against a witness who communicates with the committee can be considered obstruction of a congressional investigation and is punishable by fine and imprisonment."

Looks like it's about to hit the fan...

smoothy · Apr 18, 2013, 07:14 AM

I'm looking forwad to it hitting the fan.. and the responsible parties get hung.

excon · Apr 18, 2013, 07:27 AM

Hello again,

I'm looking forwad to it hitting the fan.. and the responsible parties get hung.

The responsible party is YOU. I KNOW you think cutting funding for sh!t doesn't have any effect on the lives of real people, but it does...

YOU, and only YOU cut funding for embassy security. YOU, and only YOU thought it was a cut in the amount of pencils they bought. But, YOU were wrong. Security SAVES lives.. When you CUT it, lives are lost...

Look no further than YOURSELF.

Excon

smoothy · Apr 18, 2013, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

The responsible party is YOU. I KNOW you think cutting funding for sh!t doesn't have any effect on the lives of real people, but it does...

YOU, and only YOU cut funding for embassy security. YOU, and only YOU thought it was a cut in the amount of pencils they bought. But, YOU were wrong. Security SAVES lives.. When you CUT it, lives are lost...

Look no further than YOURSELF.

excon

BS... Owebama is responsible for those deaths by ordering the Rapid reaction foces in Sicily Italy to stand down from deploying... and Hillary Clintons fault as well.

THey are BOTH Democrats which makes it YOUR fault... I've never voted for a Democrat so I have no share of the blame.

They had all the money they need... I know people in the State Department... they said as much...

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2013, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

The responsible party is YOU. I KNOW you think cutting funding for sh!t doesn't have any effect on the lives of real people, but it does...

YOU, and only YOU cut funding for embassy security. YOU, and only YOU thought it was a cut in the amount of pencils they bought. But, YOU were wrong. Security SAVES lives.. When you CUT it, lives are lost...

Look no further than YOURSELF.

excon

Right, Dems and the admin should never, ever take responsibility for anything. Dude, it wasn't the GOP ignoring the requests for increased security in Libya. It wasn't the GOP that ignored the repeated calls for assistance and it wasn't the GOP that sent a stooge out to lie about the whole ordeal, so cut the crap on blaming Republicans. You're just pi$$ed that it won't go away like the Obama admin had hoped it would.

tomder55 · Apr 18, 2013, 08:05 AM

I'm sure they'll attempt to string it out past the 2014 mid-terms

speechlesstx · Apr 18, 2013, 08:23 AM

Expect another tantrum... should anyone ask about it.

paraclete · Apr 18, 2013, 03:39 PM

I think it is time Obama showed passion and anger on many issues

smoothy · Apr 18, 2013, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

I think it is time Obama showed passion and anger on many issues

I think its high time he shuts up and stays away from the camera... FAR away from the cameras.