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    #141

    Apr 10, 2013, 09:47 AM
    Lets tax everything, and be done with it. If you can't afford it you can't buy it, so bring on the rights flat tax and see how the economy goes.

    Can I have a raise boss to buy milk and gas? ACHHOOO! Sorry but I can't afford to stay home with a lousy cold. >sniff, sniff<.
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    #142

    Apr 10, 2013, 10:57 AM
    I have a great idea, no more tax exemptions for the church, since it's a private institution any way.
    OK
    Doing away with private student loan companies saved a lot of loot too!
    I'd like to see that claim backed up... All I see is that it drove the cost of tuitions up.
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    #143

    Apr 10, 2013, 12:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I'd like to see that claim backed up ... All I see is that it drove the cost of tuitions up.
    Logic, it cut out the middle man and the schools are jacking up their costs now too. Every body is jacking up their prices, because they can. Can you think of a better way to get government money?
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    #144

    Apr 10, 2013, 01:16 PM
    Logic ;if every kid is getting government guaranteed loans then competition for admission drives up cost of tuition .The government created the tuition increase problem .

    Why the Government is to Blame for High College Costs - US News and World Report

    http://financialawakenings.com/weekl...-college-loans
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    #145

    Apr 10, 2013, 02:22 PM
    Ah those free market mechanics you love so much and look; a stimilus actually worked
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    #146

    Apr 10, 2013, 02:33 PM
    What are you talking about ? The kids in America are graduating with enormous debt and walking into the world with no jobs ;or being underemployed . There are articles in AARP about how the new normal is going to be 3 generations living in a single home.
    All this courtesy of Uncle Sam .
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    #147

    Apr 10, 2013, 02:40 PM
    I'm talking about this increased demand for education you identified resulting from government loans. No one said there had to be jobs at the end of the production line but they will go on turning out the best of the best of the best. Look at it this way, it keeps the kids off the streets and maybe one of them will solve the problem and just maybe they can spell
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    #148

    Apr 10, 2013, 02:41 PM
    I read somewhere the other day that most of the new jobs these days are going to workers 50+ and up. Guess no one has openings for philosophy and women's studies majors.
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    #149

    Apr 10, 2013, 02:59 PM
    No there is not a big demand for english majors and aboriginal studies either.

    If employers have any sense they want practical people who can do a day's work, not a day's talk
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    #150

    Apr 10, 2013, 03:19 PM
    The more money the federal government pumps into financial aid, the more money the colleges charge for tuition. Inflation-adjusted tuition and fees have tripled over those same 30 years while aid quadrupled; the aid is going up faster than the tuition. Thanks to the federal government, massive sums of money are available to pay for massive tuitions.
    Colleges can raise tuition with impunity because colleges know they'll get paid no matter what.
    Those greedy bast@rds can't get enough of that government money. Amazing how no one suggested lowering the cost of college as a solution.
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    #151

    Apr 10, 2013, 03:35 PM
    How anti free enterprise can you get? No this is classic economics. What you need to do is reduce the number of places available or raise the entry level requirements
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    #152

    Apr 10, 2013, 03:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Those greedy bast@rds can't get enough of that government money. Amazing how no one suggested lowering the cost of college as a solution.
    They got to pay all those athletes and tenured profs.
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    #153

    Apr 10, 2013, 03:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Those greedy bast@rds can't get enough of that government money. Amazing how no one suggested lowering the cost of college as a solution.
    I have a solution . Get rid of all the cr@p that is part of the college experience. If I was doing it over ,I'd take on -line courses as much as possible
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    #154

    Apr 10, 2013, 03:50 PM
    Now you are talking. Start at Pre-K, and go all the way to PHD, at home.
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    #155

    Apr 11, 2013, 05:12 AM
    I have no words... (profanity warning)

    We are Femen, the naked shock troops of feminism | Inna Shevchenko
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    #156

    Apr 11, 2013, 05:13 AM
    I have to ask this. We don't have the "college experience " here, how does this add to educational excellence?
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    #157

    Apr 11, 2013, 05:22 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    I have no words... (profanity warning)
    Since the get go, your party has been on the side of DENYING the expansion of rights.. When that happens, it pisses people off. So, they gather into groups and march around carrying signs.. You've NEVER liked that, and you DON'T like it now.

    If you want a LOOK at your war on women, look no further than THIS post.

    Excon
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    #158

    Apr 11, 2013, 05:32 AM
    Looks like Vladdy is enjoying the view
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    #159

    Apr 11, 2013, 05:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Since the get go, your party has been on the side of DENYING the expansion of rights.. When that happens, it pisses people off. So, they gather into groups and march around carrying signs.. You've NEVER liked that, and you DON'T like it now.

    If you want a LOOK at your war on women, look no further than THIS post.

    excon
    They should march naked in the White House until female staffers get equal pay.
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    #160

    Apr 11, 2013, 07:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    They gotta pay all those athletes and tenured profs.
    Was that profs or poofs

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