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    Mar 26, 2013, 03:57 AM
    What is a current event?
    I just visted the New York Times, the Washington Post and the BBC and only on the BBC did I get a hint that something existed outside the USA. Get over yourselves, you are not that important, who wants to know? Not 95% of the world
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    Mar 26, 2013, 04:08 AM
    Feeling sorry for yourself ? Well of course if you are only looking at the Slimes and Compost then your perception will be warped .
    But I can look at both publications and find news from around the world. Just may not be front page .
    International News - The New York Times
    World: World News, International News, Foreign Reporting - The Washington Post

    If I'm looking for a publication where Aussie news dominates ,I usually go to one that is published in Aussie and caters to an Aussie clientele... like The Australian
    Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

    The trick is to not rely on one or a few sources .
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    Mar 26, 2013, 04:52 AM
    You must not look very hard, virtually every media outlet has international news. Are you just constipated, clete?
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    Mar 26, 2013, 08:22 AM
    Here Clete, let me help...

    Washington Post - World

    NY Times - World

    ABC News - World

    Boston Globe - World

    CBS News - World

    Fox News - World

    LA Times - World

    NBC News - World

    Miami Herald - World

    Even our podunk little paper...

    Amarillo Globe News - World


    Glad to be of service.
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    Mar 26, 2013, 08:27 AM
    Oh... it seems like someone else thinks their country is the center of the world.

    Incidentally the New York Times and the Washingto comPost aren't international publications and cater to their readers.

    If you read either of those publications they do have international news in them.

    I suppose if you picked up any Australian publication they would be Autrailian in focus... wouldn't they? As would any other publication NOT specifically geared exclusively towards international stories... which is most of them.

    I have no doubts the BBC is UK in their center of scope... because after all.. the days of the glorious British Empire are long over but they still cater primarily to people in the UK. But lets be honest.. the UK is NOT a huge place. They run out of local stories pretty quick without resorting to covering births and funerals heavily. Not to mention who got parking tickets... and gossip.
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    Mar 26, 2013, 01:01 PM
    Long recognized as the authoritative international news source:

    The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
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    Mar 26, 2013, 02:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Oh...it seems like someone else thinks their country is the center of the world.

    Incidently the New York Times and the Washingto comPost aren't international publications and cater to their readers.

    If you read either of those publications they do have international news in them.

    I suppose if you picked up any Austrailian publication they would be Autrailian in focus...wouldn't they? As would any other publication NOT specifically geared exclusively towards international stories...which is most of them.

    I have no doubts the BBC is UK in their center of scope....because after all..the days of the glorious British Empire are long over but they still cater primarily to people in the UK. But lets be honest..the UK is NOT a huge place. They run out of local stories pretty quick without resorting to covering births and funerals heavily. Not to mention who got parking tickets...and gossip.
    Hi smoothy yes our publications carry local news and some stupid stories at that but the important international news is never far away SMH has two articals of international origin in its lead five today while you have to get a little further down the page in the Murdoch press offerings meanwhile the BBC is entirely international focused but the point is no one is attempting to serve up gossip as front page news as you suggest and you don't have to dig into the back pages to find it
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    Mar 26, 2013, 02:30 PM
    I didn't have to dig, I just clicked on "world".
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    Mar 26, 2013, 02:58 PM
    I don't have to do that, for us the world is not a different place
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    Mar 26, 2013, 03:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I don't have to do that, for us the world is not a different place
    The first Aussie site I visited was exactly the same. Maybe you could use more fiber?
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    Mar 26, 2013, 03:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The first Aussie site I visited was exactly the same. Maybe you could use more fiber?
    I hope you didn't follow that link to the Australian provided by Tom that's a parochial Murdoch rag this is much better

    ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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    Mar 26, 2013, 04:21 PM
    Yeah that's the ticket... an American broadcasting network gives the best news in
    Aussie ;and the publication by an Aussie national is a rag.
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    Mar 26, 2013, 04:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yeah that's the ticket ...an American broadcasting network gives the best news in Aussie ;and the publication by an Aussie national is a rag.
    Have you left the planet or just touched down on Planet America?

    My reference is to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, a premier national public broadcaster, and the unfortunately named "the Australian" is a relatively recent addition to daily newspapers used by Murdoch to steal the national newspaper slot for himself. Australians tend not to have national newspapers but major publishers in various state capitals
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    Mar 26, 2013, 05:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Have you left the planet or just touched down on Planet America?

    My reference is to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, a premier national public broadcaster, and the unfortunately named "the Australian" is a relatively recent addition to daily newspapers used by Murdoch to steal the national newspaper slot for himself. Australians tend not to have national newspapers but major publishers in various state capitals
    Yes, ABC is one if your many state media outlets. I think you should give this one up though, my first response was correct.
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    Mar 26, 2013, 05:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Yes, ABC is one if your many state media outlets. I think you should give this one up though, my first response was correct.
    How many STATE media outlets do you think we have?

    We have the ABC which provides english language television and radio and SBS which provides ethnic( multi lingual) television and radio

    I use this one to cross check the reporting in the other media, it helps to get another perspective
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    Mar 27, 2013, 06:33 AM
    Correction, should be ABC IS your state media outlet with multiple outlets.

    "The ABC operates 54 local radio stations, in addition to four national networks and international service Radio Australia. In addition, DiG Radio launched on digital platforms in 2002, currently offering three separate stations."

    "Within Australia, the ABC operates four channels. ABC1, the Corporation's original television service, receives the bulk of funding for television and shows first-run comedy, drama, documentaries, and news and current affairs. In each state and territory a local news bulletin is shown at 7.00 p.m. nightly"

    "Australia Network, formerly ABC Asia Pacific, is an international satellite television service operated by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, funded by advertising and grants from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. Aimed at the Asia-Pacific region, the service broadcasts a mixture of English language programming, including general entertainment, sport, and current affairs."

    I think that's 61 radio outlets and 5 TV channels in addition to online content. Would that be about right?
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    Mar 27, 2013, 06:45 AM
    Sounds like Pravda
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    Mar 27, 2013, 01:50 PM
    Speech it is one organisation not many organisations and the many "radio" stations are relays distributing programs across the nation, yes there are multiple TV channels but private television also broadcasts on multiple channels each of the other three TV broadcasters provides national service and most radio stations excepting community radio stations are part of one massive network. We think differently to you, we have for example a christian radio network with over two hundred transmitters

    I cannot expect you to understand how a small nation with limited resources might develop and provide services to a sparcely populated nation but often government has to do what private enterprise will not. You may remember only a week ago that we were discussing an attempt to reform media concentration here that is still going on. We make no apologies for taking a socialist approach to the provision of essential services when private enterprise will not step up and we did it not only in media but in banking; our largest bank was once government owned, airlines; our national carrier was once government owned, electricity; our electricity industry was once government owned, Telecoms; once government owned. The National Broadband Network; in the progcess of being built by government. Railways; most services are still in government hands, ports; once government owned, Water; still in government hands. Hospitals; many in government hands, Schools; many in government hands

    Tom and yourself would like to suggest there is something wrong with government enterprise but what we find is that a government enterprise can be an efficient means to meet a public need and at an appropriate time divested into private hands
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    Mar 27, 2013, 02:04 PM
    I made a correction, "Correction, should be ABC IS your state media outlet with multiple outlets."
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    Mar 27, 2013, 02:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I made a correction, "Correction, should be ABC IS your state media outlet with multiple outlets."
    The ABC is not State media, it is media like any other media. Its content is not controlled by the STATE. It is owned and operated by the government, but is a statutory corporation which means its shareholder is the government. The government does not set editorial policy and is frequently critical of government policy

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