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    Mar 24, 2013, 05:11 AM
    There have been many studies of irradiation over the years and here is but one,

    Food Irradiation: A Catalyst for More Health Risks

    But your link seems to point to the hygiene of specific producers and their processes. Seems inspecting more facilities would accomplish more than just random product inspections. Or maybe both are needed just more of it.

    Hard to do when you have out of country suppliers, but local chains who use these suppliers maybe should be more proactive in making sure all due diligence against any possible contamination.
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    #302

    Mar 24, 2013, 05:37 AM
    of course organic farmers would come to that conclusion.300,000 people become sick from food-borne illnesses each year in the U.S. and almost 5,000 of those die. Irradiation eliminates much of that risk without affecting the nutritional value of the food.
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    #303

    Mar 24, 2013, 06:59 AM
    The CDC has been approving it more over the years and its no doubt a good tool to add to the hygiene around food handling and distribution.
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    #304

    Mar 26, 2013, 08:03 AM
    And the next target in the war on anything you might remotely enjoy is, cigars.

    Cigars expected to be targeted by FDA regulation
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    #305

    Mar 26, 2013, 08:21 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    You mean I won't be able to poison myself anymore? If I want to die like a man, who is the government to tell me that I can't?

    excon
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    #306

    Mar 26, 2013, 08:24 AM
    I think in your case you can get your doc to do it.
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    #307

    Mar 26, 2013, 08:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    You mean I won't be able to poison myself anymore?? If I wanna die like a man, who is the government to tell me that I can't?

    excon
    You need to have a talk with Mayor Bloomberg.
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    #308

    Mar 26, 2013, 08:30 AM
    Public health experts and some anti-tobacco lawmakers are pressing the FDA to regulate all cigars, but they mostly worry about the inexpensive, flavored varieties that have proliferated in recent years.
    Of course. I bet even Nanny Bloomy stuffs a big fat Cuban cigar between his lips every now and then.
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    #309

    Mar 26, 2013, 08:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Of course. I bet even Nanny Bloomy stuffs a big fat Cuban cigar between his lips every now and then.
    I'm betting something a bit more Clintonesque...
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    #310

    Mar 26, 2013, 08:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Of course. I bet even Nanny Bloomy stuffs a big fat Cuban cigar between his lips every now and then.
    No doubt, these people just want to impose a lifestyle of their choosing on the rest of us while they go about living it up as always.
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    #311

    Mar 26, 2013, 09:40 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    while they go about living it up as always.
    It's true. I NEVER wear my seat belts - especially with a cigarette in my hand.

    Excon
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    #312

    Mar 26, 2013, 10:04 AM
    You mean a joint?
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    #313

    Mar 26, 2013, 10:48 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    That's in my other hand, and I have a 32 ounce Big Gulp between my legs. Got some beer in the cooler.. Waiting till I hit the interstate to crack one open.

    excon
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    #314

    Mar 26, 2013, 01:12 PM
    While talking on your cell phone and watching a DVD?
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    Mar 26, 2013, 01:12 PM
    And texting.. two girlfriends at once.
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    #316

    Mar 26, 2013, 02:15 PM
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Texting, hell. We're full on sexting. I LOVE being free.

    excon
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    Mar 26, 2013, 07:26 PM
    You don't charge, now there is a revelation
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    #318

    Mar 27, 2013, 06:59 AM
    I wonder how many fewer veggies can be grown after Obama completes his land grab?

    A sweeping new Obama administration strategy to protect plants, fish and animals from the hazards of global warming would require the government to set aside millions of acres of land to preserve threatened habitat.

    "More than millions of acres across the landscape will be required," said U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe. "The lands will be protected by easement, by land acquisitions, by local, by land trusts, by state agencies, by federal agencies," he told reporters in releasing a 120-page National Fish, Wildlife and Plants Climate Adaptation Strategy, in the works for four years.

    "We're doing it for wildlife preservation and we're thinking about climate," he added.
    Let 'em eat Spotted Owl.
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    #319

    Mar 27, 2013, 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I wonder how many fewer veggies can be grown after Obama completes his land grab?



    Let 'em eat Spotted Owl.
    The answer to that... (and I beleve people like Obama would actually be capable of)

    Soylent green.
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    #320

    Mar 27, 2013, 07:03 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Wow. Setting aside millions of acres to preserve wildlife is EVIL, indeed. Dem librhuls is ruinnning us. Der should be OIL on da ground...

    excon

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