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    #261

    Mar 21, 2013, 01:47 PM
    Obviously Democrats in Congress have nothing better to do than focus on important issues...

    Lawmakers introduce bill to void 'Redskins' trademark

    A group of House Democrats on Wednesday introduced a bill that would prevent the term "Redskins" from being trademarked, a move intended to put pressure on the Washington football club to change its name.

    The Non-Disparagement of American Indians in Trademark Registrations Act of 2013 is co-sponsored by Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), and comes days after a federal trademark panel heard arguments over whether the team name was a slur. The panel could potentially overturn the team's trademark, which would erode profits by allowing other businesses to sell apparel and goods featuring the Redskins name.

    Earlier this month, Norton said the team "should consider" a new name.

    “Nobody would let a comparable name to blacks stand," Norton said, adding that she thinks the team will eventually be forced to make a change.

    “I certainly do. But nothing happens without pushing and shoving... I am a fan of the Redskins. I’m just not a fan of their name," Norton said.

    The trademark pushes come amid renewed calls in Washington politics and media for the team to change the name. Earlier this year, D.C. mayor Vincent Gray said the team could be forced to "work with" the city council on a name change if they wanted to build a new stadium within the District.

    The team has not publicly commented on challenges to the Redskins trademark, but last month began posting articles to the team website that highlighting high schools that also use the moniker.

    Read more: Lawmakers introduce bill to void 'Redskins' trademark - The Hill's In The Know
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    How about a compromise? The Redskins keep their name and change their logo to a peanut. Nuts would be an appropriate mascot for DC.
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    #262

    Mar 21, 2013, 04:17 PM
    I wonder if the Secret Service people who walk Obama's dog are going to get furloughed ?
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    #263

    Mar 21, 2013, 04:37 PM
    The grounds keeper probably doesn't have secret service with him, just a pooper scooper.
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    #264

    Mar 21, 2013, 04:53 PM
    Hello again,

    I must say your expectation of the SAME level of service with a greatly reduced budget is mindboggling... But, you've blown my mind before..

    excon
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    #265

    Mar 21, 2013, 04:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    I must say your expectation of the SAME level of service with a greatly reduced budget is mindboggling... But, you've blown my mind before..

    excon
    I would say you have never heard of productivity,it is marvellous what happens when a threat emerges, particularly in government
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    #266

    Mar 21, 2013, 05:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    I must say your expectation of the SAME level of service with a greatly reduced budget is mindboggling... But, you've blown my mind before..

    excon
    Service ? I'm talking trimming 2 % bloat from a $ multi-trillion budget .There should be NO service impact. Most of the government could do it just by tightening up it's procurement procedures.
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    #267

    Mar 21, 2013, 06:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    service ? I'm talking trimming 2 % bloat from a $ multi-trillion budget .There should be NO service impact. Most of the government could do it just by tightening up it's procurement procedures.
    Yes like they have got enough stuff they don't need any more for yonks!
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    #268

    Mar 21, 2013, 06:15 PM
    The taxpayer has to adjust their spending downward every time their income is reduced because of price increases, pay cuts, reduced hours or tax increases...

    The government can learn to do it too.
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    #269

    Mar 21, 2013, 06:18 PM
    Yes begin by doing away with cost plus contracts
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    #270

    Mar 21, 2013, 07:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    yes begin by doing away with cost plus contracts
    The bigger problem is they don't believe in zero baseline budgets... what they consider a "baseline" really isn't... its last years amount plus an automatic increase... so even when they claim no increase... they are telling lies abut it, because there IS an increase..
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    #271

    Mar 21, 2013, 08:33 PM
    I don't understand how any organisation can effectively manage without zero based budgetting. It forces each item to be examined for its worth and necessity
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    #272

    Mar 22, 2013, 03:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The bigger problem is they don't believe in zero baseline budgets...what they consider a "baseline" really isn't...its last years amount plus an automatic increase...so even when they claim no increase...they are telling lies abut it, because there IS an increase..
    Yes. The so called cuts are nothing more than reductions in the rate of increase. Even while this is happening the Federal Government is hiring .
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    #273

    Mar 22, 2013, 04:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yes. the so called cuts are nothing more than reductions in the rate of increase. Even while this is happening the Federal Government is hiring .
    That's right because nothing is increasing at the rate of assumed inflation except the inflated salaries of the fat cats
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    #274

    Mar 22, 2013, 04:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I don't understand how any organisation can effectively manage without zero based budgetting. It forces each item to be examined for its worth and necessity
    And now you see the root problem with the government spending... they have lied to themselves for so long they actaually can't see things for the way they really are.

    The private world and the business world live in reality of a zero baseline budget... really is a zero baseline budget, you don't add automatic pay raises you haven't gotten yet and claim that's not an increase in your income at all..
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    #275

    Mar 22, 2013, 04:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    And now you see the root problem with the government spending.....they have lied to themselves for so long they actaually can't see things for the way they really are.
    I have known the root of the problem for a long time and it isn't lack of budgeting but a lack of discipline among politicians
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    #276

    Mar 22, 2013, 04:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I have known the root of the problem for a long time and it isn't lack of budgeting but a lack of discipline among politicians
    It's a combination... and the fact they pretend that increaces aren't increases to make the real increases look smaller to the poorly informed public... causes and allows it to compound.

    Run your household like that and you will end up bankrupt... run a business like that and it will end up bankrupt...

    Yet Polititions seem to think its not only normal but right for them to do because after all... its only someone else's tax money...
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    #277

    Mar 22, 2013, 06:35 AM
    The government is not a household, or a business. The business model is broken, and corrupt, and that makes households broke and helpless. Government is under siege by those bent on destroying it, to further their own aim of cheap labor, higher profits, and the power to exploit the rest of the globe for mo'money.
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    #278

    Mar 22, 2013, 06:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The government is not a household, or a business. The business model is broken, and corrupt, and that makes households broke and helpless. Government is under seige by those bent on destroying it, to further their own aim of cheap labor, higher profits, and the power to exploit the rest of the globe for mo'money.
    You got that backwards... its the Government that's trying to grab more and more power they were never constitutionally allowed to have... EVER before.
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    #279

    Mar 22, 2013, 07:10 AM
    Your government has been corrupt for a long time - both sides.
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    #280

    Mar 22, 2013, 07:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The government is not a household, or a business. The business model is broken, and corrupt, and that makes households broke and helpless. Government is under seige by those bent on destroying it, to further their own aim of cheap labor, higher profits, and the power to exploit the rest of the globe for mo'money.
    Dude, for once I have to agree with Smoothy.

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