[smoothy]

I meant about sex ed.

I'm all for bring back Palmer Penmanship, Phonics, and memorizing of times tables, poetry, and certain Bible verses/Psalms. Education was even better in my day than in yours. After I graduated from high school, they broke the education mold

We had sex ed.. but it was hidden in what they called Health class at the time... I remember it back as early as the 8th grade... but it might have been the 7th grade. I'm younger than you... so that was the early 70's.

[Wondergirl]

Boy do they...

Nah. My kids knew more than I did (from their friends who had big brothers and sisters) by the time they were in 6th grade. The kids sat in sex ed class and giggled at how stupid the teacher was.

[speechlesstx]

So in other words because let your kids hang out with bad influences we should just teach them all about rimming say, in the 2nd grade?

[Wondergirl]

So in other words because let your kids hang out with bad influences we should just teach them all about rimming say, in the 2nd grade?

My kids hung out with other kids in their Lutheran school.

[talaniman]

And what kept us pure?

Oral sex, and anal sex? NO? Aspirin between the knees? No? Saran wrap condoms? NO??
Don't ask don't tell? NO?? I give what kept us pure??

CDC - About Teen Pregnancy - Teen Pregnancy - Reproductive Health

While the population is growing, pregnancy rates are going down. Some faster than others.

[smoothy]

And what kept us pure?

Oral sex, and anal sex?? NO? Aspirin between the knees? No? Saran wrap condoms? NO???
Don't ask don't tell?? NO???? I give what kept us pure?????

CDC - About Teen Pregnancy - Teen Pregnancy - Reproductive Health

While the population is growing, pregnancy rates are going down. Some faster than others.

That has more to do with STDS than anything else... I wish that chart went back to before the era of AIDS.

[tomder55]

I meant about sex ed.

I'm all for bring back Palmer Penmanship, Phonics, and memorizing of times tables, poetry, and certain Bible verses/Psalms. Education was even better in my day than in yours. After I graduated from high school, they broke the education mold

Yup ;at least then kids knew how to spell sugar and salt before they graduated .

[Wondergirl]

I grew up in the boonies.....we weren't what you would call pure.

I grew up in a rural area where the village was maybe 500 people and 90% of the residents were farmers. I dated farmers' sons who knew a thing or two. So what kept us pure?

[talaniman]

If fear of STD's makes the rates keeps going down, lets scare 'em some more. If they use condoms and contracepion ALL the time that's cool too. But lets not assume/pretend 11 and 12 year olds don't have a natural curiosity about sex, because I did at that age and so were the girls, farmland sex education notwithstanding.

Yeah they masturbate at that age too.

[smoothy]

I grew up in a rural area where the village was maybe 500 people and 90% of the residents were farmers. I dated farmers' sons who knew a thing or two. So what kept us pure?

You need to define what you consider pure I guess. I grew up in a place where the closest high school was in a town 4 times that size.

We didn't have girls that had the entire football teams up her behind in a single night pretending to be a virgin... or girls the gave oral to every jock in the class claiming to be a virgin...

But then... rates of HPV infections reflect the reality...

[Wondergirl]

But lets not assume/pretend 11 and 12 year olds don't have a natural curiosity about sex

During the '70s and '80s, I taught a Sunday School class of 5th and 6th graders (no else wanted to deal with that age group). I'm easy to talk with, so often a lesson was interrupted with questions about sex (as pertained to the Bible lesson for the day). When I mentioned this to the superintendent, she told me to go with it and answer them honestly and accurately, figuring their parents were too shy to deal with it themselves (and that was the case according to the kids). No parent ever complained.

[Wondergirl]

You need to define what you consider pure I guess. I grew up in a place where the closest high school was in a town 4 times that size.

Me too -- in fact it was a SUNY town where I went to high school.

We didn't have girls that had the entire football teams up her behind in a single night pretending to be a virgin... or girls the gave oral to every jock in the class claiming to be a virgin...

There was no AIDS back in my day or VD to speak of, no threats. So why were we so pure?

[tomder55]

This conversation has drifted far from the nanny state's imposing restrictions on the consumption of sugar... then again... maybe not.
With sex ,the nanny state don't care if the kids indulge ;or what price to repair irresponsible behavior... They give that service away for free or low cost... parents don't even have to know the nanny state Is providing that service But... that same kid has hyper-tension ? The death panel cometh .

[Wondergirl]

this conversation has drifted far from the nanny state's imposing restrictions on the consumption of sugar...

Over-interest in sex is the fault of sugar and corn syrup in our foods.

[talaniman]

During the '70s and '80s, I taught a Sunday School class of 5th and 6th graders (no else wanted to deal with that age group). I'm easy to talk with, so often a lesson was interrupted with questions about sex (as pertained to the Bible lesson for the day). When I mentioned this to the superintendent, she told me to go with it and answer them honestly and accurately, figuring their parents were too shy to deal with it themselves (and that was the case according to the kids). No parent ever complained.

Parents Furious After School Teaches Graphic Sex Class | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

What do you tell these parents?

[Wondergirl]

Parents Furious After School Teaches Graphic Sex Class | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

What do you tell these parents?

I would mention that "parents were sent a notice informing them about the program – and that they had a right to review the curriculum. But ... only three parents showed up."

I never got a chance to be graphic. :D

[talaniman]

I would mention that "parents were sent a notice informing them about the program – and that they had a right to review the curriculum. But ... only three parents showed up."

I never got a chance to be graphic. :D

Neither should the substitute even if he was a principle. He got played by a few students it seems.

He wasn't smarter than a 5th grader. I hope the little girls parents can talk to their traumatized child.

[speechlesstx]

My kids hung out with other kids in their Lutheran school.

They teach rimming in the Lutheran church to 5th graders?

[speechlesstx]

this conversation has drifted far from the nanny state's imposing restrictions on the consumption of sugar... then again.... maybe not.
With sex ,the nanny state don't care if the kids indulge ;or what price to repair irresponsible behavior ... They give that service away for free or low cost ... parents don't even have to know the nanny state Is providing that service But..... that same kid has hyper-tension ? The death panel cometh .

Ironic isn't it?

[Wondergirl]

They teach rimming in the Lutheran church to 5th graders?

Nope. Conversations between students at recess.