[speechlesstx]

At least we treat our politicians as mere humans, not Messiahs.

[NeedKarma]

At least we treat our politicians as mere humans, not Messiahs.

I still don't understand why you view Obama as the messiah, you rightys are the only ones here who mention that.

[speechlesstx]

I still don;t understand why you view Obama as the messiah, you rightys are the only ones here who mention that.

LOL, still haven't learned to stop challenging me on the facts? In denial? I've posted MANY times about who considers Obama more than a mere human. Here's a collection of lefties worshiping their Messiah. Louis Farrakhan even declared him so. He is the "Magic N..... - oops, I can't say it without being reprimanded or censored.

It's easy to understand when the cult of Obama makes it so plain.

[NeedKarma]

So he IS the Messiah! You should probably listen to him, those are intelligent people who are calling him that, you should take heed and stop calling him names and debasing him.

[paraclete]

At least we treat our politicians as mere humans, not Messiahs.

Ahmmmm, when did that happen? Every hopefull is the new massiah over there, Romney was the great white hope, you build them up and then you drop them when they don't win

[speechlesstx]

ahmmmm, when did that happen? Every hopefull is the new massiah over there, Romney was the great white hope, you build them up and then you drop them when they don't win

There's a huge difference between hoping your side wins and worshiping your candidate.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, as warned prior to the election Obama is about to hammer seniors now that he's safely in office again.

Here Comes The Boom: CMS Slashes Medicare Advantage; 'Disarray For Many Seniors'

Though Democrats denied it during the 2012 campaign, Obamacare cut Medicare by $716 billion in order to partially fund $1.9 trillion in new entitlement spending over the next ten years. A big chunk of those Medicare cuts came from the market-oriented Medicare Advantage program. Cleverly, the Obama administration postponed the Medicare Advantage cuts until after the election, so as to persuade seniors that everything would be just fine. But the election is over. On Friday, the administration announced that it would be significantly reducing funding for the popular program. Obama's proposal, according to one analyst, “would turn almost every plan in the industry unprofitable.”

Democrats have long been hostile to the Medicare Advantage program, which allows seniors to get their Medicare coverage through plans administered by private insurers. Today, more than a quarter of retirees get their coverage through Medicare Advantage, and the program has experienced rapid growth over the past decade. Richard Foster, the recently-retired chief actuary of the Medicare program, has projected that Obamacare's cuts to Medicare Advantage would force half of its current enrollees to switch back to the old, 1965-vintage Medicare program. Robert Book and James Capretta estimate that this will cost enrollees an average of $3,714 in 2017 alone.

Damn those Republicans for wanting to push granny over the cliff.

[Wondergirl]

There's a huge difference between hoping your side wins and worshiping your candidate.

But Obama can sing on key and dance like a dream! The other guy couldn't do either one.

[speechlesstx]

Romney actually personally rescued people, physically and financially. Singing to them wouldn't have done much good... just like Obama did to seniors during the campaign only to pull the rug out a few months later.

[NeedKarma]

Singing to them wouldn't have done much good

Neither does praying but it gives people comfort and that's the point I guess.

[Wondergirl]

Romney actually personally rescued people, physically and financially.

He also ended their worklives.

[speechlesstx]

Neither does praying but it gives people comfort and that's the point I guess.

Well that was totally irrelevant to my point.

Romney rescues capsized boaters

BIG-HEARTED MITT
Romney’s life characterized by little-told stories of generosity

[paraclete]

Why are we talking about yesterday's man, I say give Obama a chance, if he stuffs up you have more ammunition for the next election, but with a Senate bent on allowing nothing to pass it just ain't going to happen. How it is possible you allow a minority to be obstructive is beyond me.

[speechlesstx]

why are we talking about yesterday's man, I say give Obama a chance, if he stuffs up you have more ammunition for the next election, but with a Senate bent on allowing nothing to pass it just ain't goin to happen. How it is possible you allow a minority to be obstructive is beyond me.

I say why let Obama ruin us and what's wrong with protecting the minority from having no say?

[speechlesstx]

Good news on Obamacare (which may have been mentioned elsewhere) , more than 800 pages were added to the Obamacare regulations last week, bringing it to over 20,000 pages. Or, this big:



And in even better news, Applying for Obama plan not easy.

You don't say.

Applying for benefits under President Barack Obama's health care overhaul could be as daunting as doing your taxes.

The government's draft application runs 15 pages for a three-person family. An outline of the online version has 21 steps, some with additional questions.

Seven months before the Oct. 1 start of enrollment season for millions of uninsured Americans, the idea that getting health insurance could be as easy as shopping online at Amazon or Travelocity is starting to look like wishful thinking.

At least three major federal agencies, including the IRS, will scrutinize your application. Checking your identity, income and citizenship is supposed to happen in real time, if you apply online.

That's just the first part of the process...

"This lengthy draft application will take a considerable amount of time to fill out and will be difficult for many people to be able to complete," said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, an advocacy group supporting the health care law. "It does not get you to the selection of a plan."

"When you combine those two processes, it is enormously time consuming and complex," added Pollack. He's calling for the government to simplify the form and, more important, for an army of counselors to help uninsured people navigate the new system. It's unclear who would pay for these navigators.

The Leviathan cometh...

[paraclete]

I say why let Obama ruin us and what's wrong with protecting the minority from having no say?

Speech, no one objects to the minority providing their opinion, but when they are able to obstruct the process to the point that nothing gets done then this is not democracy

[paraclete]

Good news on Obamacare (which may have been mentioned elsewhere) , more than 800 pages were added to the Obamacare regulations last week, bringing it to over 20,000 pages. Or, this big:



And in even better news, Applying for Obama plan not easy.

You don't say.



The Leviathan cometh...

I would agree with you that legislation like that is ridiculous noit because of what it is designed to achieve but because it cannot be understood

[tomder55]

There is no question that this will hasten the destruction of Medicare.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

there is no question that this will hasten the destruction of Medicare.

So, the right wing is going to do it FIRST.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, tom:

So, the right wing is gonna do it FIRST.

excon

Dude, look at the picture.

[tomder55]

I think it's a big problem when clerks in chiropractor's offices are collecting all types of unrelated data from their patients and submitting it to a central data bank .
Obamacare is now estimated to at least double its projected $940 billion price tag. It will STILL leave 30 million people uninsured by 2022... and will increase the cost of and reduce the availability of services for seniors on Medicare. And that's what we know already before full implementation.