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Mar 8, 2013, 03:45 PM
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I'm not terribly concerned about these pardons. You want to have genuine outrage ? Wait 4 years when he leaves office. The most infamous to me are still Bubba's gifts to America . The most notorious to me weren't Marc Rich or the Puerto Rican terrorists. It was the Hassidic Rabbi's that he pardoned on a blatant quid pro quo to swing their district into an Evita win. Two Hasidic communities near New Square NY went for Lazio 3,500 to 150. However, New Square voted for Hillary 1,359 to 10.
Kalmen Stern, David Goldstein, Benjamin Berger and Jacob Elbaum, residents of the Chasidic village of New Square, had been convicted in 1999 on charges of swindling the government of $40 million in student grants, small-business loans and housing subsidies. They were sentenced to prison terms ranging from 30 months to 78 months.
Berger's sentence was reduced by Clinton from 30 months to 24 months, while Stern, Goldstein and Elbaum received reductions to 30 months.
The four men are followers of Rabbi David Twersky, the Skverer rebbe, who participated in an enthusiastic town reception last Aug. 7 for Hillary Clinton in her U.S. Senate campaign against Republican Rick Lazio. Mrs. Clinton subsequently received the votes of 1,359 New Square residents, compared to only 10 for Lazio. This contrasted with the votes in the Nov. 7 election of Chasidim in the nearby villages of Kiryas Joel and Kaser, which together favored Lazio over Mrs. Clinton by a margin of 3,480-152.
2001-03-02: Chasidim-pardons
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Mar 8, 2013, 06:31 PM
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Ah the price of liberty
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Mar 9, 2013, 06:36 PM
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I just read a story about a guy that I think deserves a pardon. Ryan Holle of Florida is serving life with no parole for loaning his car to a friend in 2003. His friend and three other men drove to a drug dealer's home and the dealer's 18-year old daughter was murdered in the attempted robbery. Holle was a mile and a half away at the time and had no knowledge that they were going to commit a crime. He had no prior trouble with the law and had loaned his car to the friend several times before with no problems. What is the point of ruining this poor guy's life? I'm never loaning my car to anyone after hearing that.
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