[Da Z-man]

My daughter who is 14 years old was recently caught shoplifting at Macys in New York State. Being a minor and first time offender they let my daughter go saying she is banned from the store for three years. I thought the punishment was fair till a few days later we (my wife and I) received a bill for $500.00 for civil damages. I was shocked that my wife and I were being punished for my child's bad decision. We taught her better than that and believe me, she is being disciplined for her poor choice. I think this so called bill is ridiculous though and was wondering what action can be taken against my wife and I if we do not pay. I am just making ends meet as it is and can't afford to pay $500.00 and do not think it fair to be charged this. Don Z

[cdad]

What exactly does the bill say and did you sign anything at the time of her release? Do you have copies of anything you have signed ?

[Da Z-man]

What exactly does the bill say and did you sign anything at the time of her release? Do you have copies of anything you have signed ?

No nothing was signed and my daughter was released to us with a verbal warning for her not to return to the store for three years.
The bill says it is a civil penalty.

[mr.yet]

You can try this on the bill they send you and send it back certified mail with return receipt./ " Your offer to contract for Subject Matter Jurisdiction and /or Summary Judgment is Hereby Rejected and returned to You Unsigned in Full Accord with the Truth in Lending. You are ORDERED to PROVE UP THE CLAIM or CEASE AND DESIST under to color of law. Any further correspondence from the Sender/signers, Agents, Heirs or Assigns MUST be signed under penalties of Prejury. If you or your agents/heirs.assigns are representing ME or {your name here}. You are Hereby FIRED! Without Prejudice, without recourse. UCC1-308