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    #121

    Mar 4, 2013, 01:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I never thought of that, but it explains the hollering, and the fear of being bent over by liberals. It would hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hurt really bad!!!!!!!!!!
    Well, if you look at the liberal women out there... there is a legitimate reason to fear amourous advances from frustrated liberals.

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    #122

    Mar 4, 2013, 02:00 PM
    And your point is? You feel it is more pleasant to be bent over by republicans?
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    #123

    Mar 4, 2013, 02:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    and your point is? you feel it is more pleasant to be bent over by republicans?
    Republican men get the republican women... we don't NEED to bend over democrat men.
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    #124

    Mar 4, 2013, 02:13 PM
    You let republican men screw you all the time and never holler.
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    #125

    Mar 4, 2013, 02:25 PM
    My this thread has devolved. I'm telling you, quit talking about wieners and watch the SNL take - all you need to know about the sequester.
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    #126

    Mar 4, 2013, 04:06 PM
    If the White House and Congress are looking for a place to cut, how about ending the $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit for those making over $200,000 a year?

    The Congressional Budget Office recently reported that federal EV subsidies will cost taxpayers about $7.5 billion over the next few years .

    CBO Says Electric Vehicle Subsidies to Cost $7.5 Billion With Little Benefit | National Legal and Policy Center

    The majority of those buying "green" vehicles, like General Motors' Chevy Volt, or the even more expensive Tesla are making more money than the average American. Why should those that can afford to buy them get reimbursed $7,500 each ?
    We can start with military procurements of Volts
    Military adding more electric vehicles to fleet - News - Stripes
    Recent moves by Japan's two largest automakers suggest that the electric car, after more than 100 years of development and several brief revivals, still is not ready for prime time - and may never be.

    In the meantime, the attention of automotive executives in Asia, Europe and North America is beginning to swing toward an unusual but promising new alternate power source: hydrogen.

    The reality is that consumers continue to show little interest in electric vehicles, or EVs, which dominated U.S. streets in the first decade of the 20th century before being displaced by gasoline-powered cars.

    Despite the promise of "green" transportation - and despite billions of dollars in investment, most recently by Nissan Motor Co (7201.T) - EVs continue to be plagued by many of the problems that eventually scuttled electrics in the 1910s and more recently in the 1990s. Those include high cost, short driving range and lack of charging stations.

    The public's lack of appetite for battery-powered cars persuaded the Obama administration last week to back away from its aggressive goal to put 1 million electric cars on U.S. roads by 2015.

    The tepid response to EVs also pushed Nissan's high-profile chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, perhaps the industry's most outspoken proponent of battery cars, to announce in December a major strategic shift toward more mainstream gasoline-electric hybrids, which overcome many of the shortcomings of pure EVs.

    The move was widely seen as a tacit acknowledgement by Ghosn that his all-or-nothing, multibillion-dollar bet on EVs is falling far short of his ambition to sell hundreds of thousands of battery-powered Nissan Leafs.

    Instead, Nissan plans to follow rival Toyota Motor Co (7203.T), the world's largest purveyor of hybrids, which now is poised to leapfrog pure EVs altogether to pursue what might be the next big green-tech breakthrough: pollution- and petroleum-free fuel-cell cars that convert hydrogen to electricity.

    Vice Chairman Takeshi Uchiyamada, the "father of the Prius" who helped put hybrids on the map, said he believes fuel-cell vehicles hold far more promise than battery electric cars.

    "Because of its shortcomings - driving range, cost and recharging time - the electric vehicle is not a viable replacement for most conventional cars," said Uchiyamada. "We need something entirely new."
    Electric cars head toward another dead end | Reuters
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    #127

    Mar 4, 2013, 04:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You let republican men screw you all the time and never holler.
    Not hardly... the only ones screwing people are the Democrats... Republicans tell them to go out and earn it... Liberals feels it's their duty to rob those who DID go out and work for it.
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    #128

    Mar 4, 2013, 04:28 PM
    Rescind Obamacare... you can save $1.5 Trillion a year with NO other cuts needed.
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    #129

    Mar 4, 2013, 09:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    If the White House and Congress are looking for a place to cut, how about ending the $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit for those making over $200,000 a year?

    The Congressional Budget Office recently reported that federal EV subsidies will cost taxpayers about $7.5 billion over the next few years .

    CBO Says Electric Vehicle Subsidies to Cost $7.5 Billion With Little Benefit | National Legal and Policy Center

    The majority of those buying "green" vehicles, like General Motors' Chevy Volt, or the even more expensive Tesla are making more money than the average American. Why should those that can afford to buy them get reimbursed $7,500 each ?
    We can start with military procurements of Volts
    Military adding more electric vehicles to fleet - News - Stripes

    Electric cars head toward another dead end | Reuters
    I see once again you fail to grasp the meaning of subsidy, If these vehicles are not subsidised no one is going to buy them and the technology will not develop. They had electric vehicles back in 1900, I agree it doesn't need a subsidy because the idea was a failure then and it is a failure now
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    #130

    Mar 5, 2013, 07:31 AM
    I imagine they could do things better than have this sequester go into effect. But Bonehead has admitted he can't get anything done in the house because any bill the TParty crafts is dead on arrival at the senate.

    Bonehead also knows he can get some republicans and democrats to back a senate plan. The senate will probably pass something then the house, and the right will holler and call for Boneheads head. No repub in the house wants Bonehead's job but Nancy, and if things continue down this path she may well get it in 2014.
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    #131

    Mar 5, 2013, 07:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I imagine they could do things better than have this sequester go into effect. But Bonehead has admitted he can't get anything done in the house because any bill the TParty crafts is dead on arrival at the senate.

    Bonehead also knows he can get some republicans and democrats to back a senate plan. The senate will probably pass something then the house, and the right will holler and call for Boneheads head. No repub in the house wants Bonehead's job but Nancy, and if things continue down this path she may well get it in 2014.
    So stop blaming the Repblicans and put the blame where it belongs... with Democrats in the Senate. You just showed the Republicans are doing something.. its the Dumbocrats that are the roadblock.
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    #132

    Mar 5, 2013, 08:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I imagine they could do things better than have this sequester go into effect. But Bonehead has admitted he can't get anything done in the house because any bill the TParty crafts is dead on arrival at the senate.

    Bonehead also knows he can get some republicans and democrats to back a senate plan. The senate will probably pass something then the house, and the right will holler and call for Boneheads head. No repub in the house wants Bonehead's job but Nancy, and if things continue down this path she may well get it in 2014.
    You don't know how the system works yet ? The House passes a bill... the Senate passes a bill... then a conference committee irons out the difference. The House has passed budgets.. it doesn't matter that the Senate won't pass the same version. They can pass their own... but they won't because they don't want to own it.
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    #133

    Mar 5, 2013, 08:54 AM
    The new house has not submitted anything for a budget and you know as well as I do that they at least have to revive an old bill and resubmit it as a current proposal and VOTE again on it. Bonehead knows that too, yet has not done so. Why? Because it gets buried in the senate at worst, or changed in the senate at best before going back to he house.

    To get around TParty obstruction, and destruction agenda, The senate has to start the law making process, and Bonehead knows that too. The house is divided and effectively rendered useless to initiate anything, or do its job effectively. On the majority republican side.
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    #134

    Mar 5, 2013, 08:58 AM
    Hello again,

    What we see, is what we get. Nothing is going to change. There'll be NO work done in the remaining Obama years. Our problems will be left over for the next president to fix IF she can, and IF the country survives..

    excon
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    #135

    Mar 5, 2013, 09:08 AM
    Tal, you know damn well the House has done their job over and over. Stop blaming them for the Senate refusing to do theirs. This is the 4th year Reid has refused to submit a budget AS REQUIRED BY LAW. That you would keep assigning blame to the body which has passed budgets while excusing Democrats who refuse to complete their lawful duties is enlightening.
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    #136

    Mar 5, 2013, 09:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    What we see, is what we get. Nothing is gonna change. There'll be NO work done in the remaining Obama years. Our problems will be left over for the next president to fix IF she can, and IF the country survives..

    excon
    How is anyone going to get anything done when Obama is still on a permanent campaign?
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    #137

    Mar 5, 2013, 09:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The new house has not submitted anything for a budget and you know as well as I do that they at least have to revive an old bill and resubmit it as a current proposal and VOTE again on it. Bonehead knows that too, yet has not done so. Why? Because it gets buried in the senate at worst, or changed in the senate at best before going back to he house.

    To get around TParty obstruction, and destruction agenda, The senate has to start the law making process, and Bonehead knows that too. The house is divided and effectively rendered useless to initiate anything, or do its job effectively. On the majority republican side.
    No ;perhaps he's been dealing constantly with the President's manufactured crisis' of the week. Like I said . The Dems have passed a budget for the fiscal year (which you know does not begin in January ) . It's the Senate's turn.
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    #138

    Mar 5, 2013, 01:45 PM
    I have never heard anything so childish
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    #139

    Mar 5, 2013, 01:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I have never heard anything so childish
    And yet that is EXACTLY what Obama is doing... he doesn't want to accept responsibility for anything.

    Was't long ago congress actuyally agree to give Obama everything he was demanding... just to shut him up... he rejected his own demands... because he would them own the situation lock stock and barrel.

    Obama doesn't want to solve anything... he's on a rampage to make whitey pay for every perceived fault his cocain addled mind has halucinated.
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    #140

    Mar 5, 2013, 02:35 PM
    That's a little strong smoothy you think he is on drugs, I have to admit I think your house and senate politicians might be but the WH they don't control the process

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