[talaniman]

And we never will as long as you intentionally perpetuate racial tension. I don't believe for a minute the left wants to reach that destination, it's not in their political interest to have racial harmony. As I've said many times, we aren't the ones injecting race into every situation. We have embraced minorities, and like the incident with Elaine Chao (and any other conservative minority) your side attacks them as inauthentic or devious traitors.

Also from the previous link,

When the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, many of the voters who were plainly excluded and faced danger if they tried to vote were African-American. A smaller number were Mexican Americans living in Southwestern states. Today, the country's population is changing, and so too are the tactics used to limit the influence of minority voters, Barreto said.

Just last year, the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund (MALDEF) won a legal dispute with the state of Texas over proposed election districts. Texas won four new Congressional seats, almost entirely due to growth in its Latino population. State officials working to draw new district lines complied with the letter of the Voting Rights Act by creating new districts, including at least one where Latinos would make up the majority of voters and therefore stand a better chance of being able to elect and send their candidate of choice to Congress. But, in a series of emails between state staff working to draw new district lines, it became clear that the new districts were actually designed to violate the spirit of the Voting Rights Act.

State officials drew a new “minority majority” district in such a way that voters with Spanish surnames who do not often vote were concentrated in one district and those with Spanish surnames who have a record of voting frequently were pushed into predominantly white and Republican voting zones.
Section Five and other sections of the Voting Rights Act helped federal officials and MALDEF to halt the plan.

And that's your example of embracing minorities? Seems to me if latino populations led to Texas gaining 4 new representatives in the congress then shouldn't they have a chance for 4 latino reps?

Of course diluting their voting power keeps you guys in power. I really think minorities want you to stop embracing them.

It's a bunch of lip service.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again,

So, you think WAITING in line for 8 hours to vote is EMBRACING minorities??? And, if I mention it, I'M the one who's injecting race???

Dude!!!

excon

Dude, we don't wait in line ten minutes so I have no idea what anyone else's problem is. I see it as possibly incompetence, not placing obstacles in the path of minorities. I see voter ID as protecting legitimate votes, not disenfranchising blacks. So yeah, you are injecting race, not me.

[tomder55]

Here is what happened with the 8 hr incident . This was not on election day. This happened at a early polling place in Florida; on the 1st day of early voting . Now as you will recall ,the President and the Dems really advertised the early voting option in the last campaign. The problem with that was that most districts don't open up ALL their polling places for early voting .It would be impossible .Many polling places are in local elementary schools ,libraries etc. and having a month of early voting in school auditoriums would be quite disruptive . So districts only open up a few places for early voting . On Election Day, when the majority of people vote, Miami-Dade had 829 polling places open, but only 20 were open prior to Election Day.

So this whole nonsense about 8 hr lines is a canard. I want to see the example of anyone having to wait that long ,or even close to that long ON ELECTION DAY . It did not happen.

[cdad]

Hello dad:

To ME, 8 hour waits to vote indicate anything BUT that the system is working.

excon

The system is working in that they are going through the courts to resolve it as intended by the law. That section was meant to be reviewed and now it will be.

[talaniman]

here is what happened with the 8 hr incident . This was not on election day. This happened at a early polling place in Florida; on the 1st day of early voting . Now as you will recall ,the President and the Dems really advertised the early voting option in the last campaign. The problem with that was that most districts don't open up ALL their polling places for early voting .It would be impossible .Many polling places are in local elementary schools ,libraries etc.,and having a month of early voting in school auditoriums would be quite disruptive . So districts only open up a few places for early voting . On Election Day, when the majority of people vote, Miami-Dade had 829 polling places open, but only 20 were open prior to Election Day.

So this whole nonsense about 8 hr lines is a canard. I want to see the example of anyone having to wait that long ,or even close to that long ON ELECTION DAY . It did not happen.

Florida Election: More than 200,000 didn't vote because of long lines | Mail Online

Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Report

Photos: Election Day in Columbus, Ohio, Sees Long Lines - Yahoo! News

Photos: Election Day in Columbus, Ohio, Sees Long Lines | View photo - Yahoo! News

[tomder55]

The 1st link is for Lee County ,which is where Fort Myers is.. Here is the demographics for the county . In 2005 the population was 76.6% non-Hispanic white, 14.3% Latino, 7.5% African-American and 1.1% Asian.
So ;if there were long lines there ,how can the claim be made that it was racial discrimination?
Now ,only a few sections of Florida are covered under Sec 5 of the Voting Rights Act. So tell me how having Sec 5 on the books would've helped ?
Photos of lines don't tell me anything .There were long lines at my polling place ,and yet I was out within a half hour. How many elections were being held in the district ? How many referendum to choose from ? Was it machine ballot ,or fill out a paper ballot ? The national average ON ELECTION DAY was about 15 minutes... and that includes record turnouts in some areas ,and of course the turnout in places like Philly that exceed 100% of registered voters .

[Tuttyd]

Geez Tut, it was a normal part of oral arguments at SCOTUS. If anyone is poisoning the well it's the leftist blogosphere with their collective hissy fit over Scalia making a reasonable point...if you're going to treat some states differently you better have a good reason.

Let the politicians make the reasonable points. Scalia is not at SCOTUS outlining his arguments to his fellow judges. He is in a public arena trying to preempt the way SCOTUS should vote when, or if the case comes before them. He is also outlining the reasons SCOTUS should rule against the act.

Let the politicians poison the wells. It's up to the judges to make decisions based on legal argument; not telling everyone we should entertain the idea that decisions could be based on some stuff that has been written.

[speechlesstx]

The 1st link is for Lee County ,which is where Fort Myers is .. Here is the demographics for the county . In 2005 the population was 76.6% non-Hispanic white, 14.3% Latino, 7.5% African-American and 1.1% Asian.
So ;if there were long lines there ,how can the claim be made that it was racial discrimination?
Now ,only a few sections of Florida are covered under Sec 5 of the Voting Rights Act. So tell me how having Sec 5 on the books would've helped ?
Photos of lines don't tell me anything .There were long lines at my polling place ,and yet I was out within a half hour. How many elections were being held in the district ? How many referendum to choose from ? Was it machine ballot ,or fill out a paper ballot ? The national average ON ELECTION DAY was about 15 minutes ...and that includes record turnouts in some areas ,and of course the turnout in places like Philly that exceed 100% of registered voters .

And have New Black Panthers monitoring the polling place.

[excon]

Hello again,

Right wing loon didn't get the message.

Women do not get pregnant when raped because "the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work" during an attack, a state lawmaker said YESTERDAY.

Republican Representative Henry Aldridge made the remarks to the House Appropriations Committee as it debated a proposal to eliminate a state abortion fund for poor women.

"The facts show that people who are raped -- who are truly raped -- the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work and they don't get pregnant," said Aldridge, a 71-year-old periodontist. "Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever."

Excon

[talaniman]

And have New Black Panthers monitoring the polling place.

LOL,you worry about 3 guys at a polling place and don't give a rats patoot about millions of TParty folks monitoring polling places at the last election?

[speechlesstx]

LOL,you worry about 3 guys at a polling place and don't give a rats patoot about millions of TParty folks monitoring polling places at the last election?

Um, yeah this has me scratching my head...

[talaniman]

WOW that was fast as when I found this site it was an article about how the TParty was training election monitors in every state, starting in Texas. They were supposed to have every polling place covered.

No problem,I have a few more,

Civil rights groups uneasy about tea party election-monitoring effort | The Raw Story

The Attack on Voting Rights Isn't Racist

It's not Jim Crow. But the aggressive way that True the Vote has trained its tea party recruits to monitor voters is uncomfortably similar to tactics once employed by White Citizens Councils in Davis' very own Birmingham. The indiscriminate voter purging they've facilitated falls disproportionately on blacks and Latinos. And the hoops many may have to jump through because they lack a car, or a birth certificate, or the multiple forms that need to be filled out do eerily echo literacy tests.

[tomder55]

There is nothing wrong with poll watchers. I have done it in the past . But that is different than standing there with a weapon at the entrance to a polling place.

[tomder55]

Women do not get pregnant when raped because "the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work" during an attack, a state lawmaker said YESTERDAY..

"The facts show that people who are raped -- who are truly raped -- the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work and they don't get pregnant," said Aldridge, a 71-year-old periodontist. "Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever."

Excon

I don't know where that ignorant misinformation originated ;but I'd like to see the evidence they think supports this nonsense claim.It makes about as much sense as saying a woman can prevent a rape by peeing or vomiting on their attacker.

[speechlesstx]

WOW that was fast as when I found this site it was an article about how the TParty was training election monitors in every state, starting in Texas. They were supposed to have every polling place covered.

No problem,I have a few more,

Civil rights groups uneasy about tea party election-monitoring effort | The Raw Story

The Attack on Voting Rights Isn't Racist

I'd rather have American citizens as poll watchers than the UN, and as long as EVERYONE has to abide by the same ID requirements there is no discrimination.

[smoothy]

You can't vote in European elections without a photo ID... that way the dead can't vote... nor can illegals... and the legal people only get to vote once.

Which kind of flys in the face of the Democrat mantra... vote eary, vote often.

[Wondergirl]

You can't vote in European elections without a photo ID....that way the dead can't vote...nor can illegals....and the legal people only get to vote once.

Democrats are all for having voter ID.

[smoothy]

Democrats are all for having voter ID.

Really... then why are they the ones fighting AGAINST a required photo ID? There is no other reason.

[Wondergirl]

Really...then why are they the ones fighting AGAINST a requireded photo ID? THere is no other reason.

They aren't now. Only when they have to get an ID fifteen minutes before voting.

[smoothy]

They aren't now. Only when they have to get an ID fifteen minutes before voting.

BS... NOBODY did that.. they had years... and lame excuses were given... they can cough up an ID to get money or some other taxpayer paid benefit free to them...

They can find an ID to bail people out of jail... they can find an ID every other time except when its time to vote... because none of them can conduct any official or legal business without an ID.

So then... OweBama been in office over 4 years now... they have been lbellyaching about this for well over 4 years... therefor EVERYONE that intends to vote has known for over 4 years its going to happen... so what's their excuse now?

Cut off thoese welfare checks.. or food stamps or Medicade unless they can produce a photo ID... and see how fast they can show one or get one.