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smoothy · Feb 26, 2013, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Hold on, podner.. I can see smoke coming out your ears.

excon

I must have hit the nail right on the head since you couldn't come back with something better than that.

Tuttyd · Feb 28, 2013, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Like Menendez?

The Daily Caller article offers no evidence that Menendez is playing the race card, even though this is claimed in the headline and elsewhere. I realize the article says this is what he is doing, but the quotes by Menendez himself makes no such claim. What is going on here?

Tut

excon · Feb 28, 2013, 06:09 AM

Hello Tut:

What is going on here?

The Daily Caller is run by one of the most right wing pundits in the known universe. But, that probably didn't have anything to do with it...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

Excon

tomder55 · Feb 28, 2013, 06:16 AM

North Jersey.com is the home of the Newark Star Ledger and other left leaning publications in the NY /NJ region. This is the link the Daily Caller used... Menendez clearly played the race card .

Menendez, at Trenton church, says he has shared 'sting of discrimination' - NorthJersey.com

talaniman · Feb 28, 2013, 06:20 AM

Stop blaming the wingers for taking sensational headlines and right wing bloggers as factual. They have a right believe whatever crap they want to!!

tomder55 · Feb 28, 2013, 06:25 AM

The headline in the North Jersey .com

Menendez, at Trenton church, says he has shared 'sting of discrimination'

The text :

The Democrat from Hudson County blamed his current troubles, which include questions about his relationship with a contributor and the possibility of a Senate Ethics Committee investigation, on right-wing bloggers.

Speaking to a crowd of roughly 300 people who gathered at The Shiloh Baptist Church for a Black History Month celebration, Menendez appeared to surprise his own staff by using the venue to offer a spirited defense to questions that have dogged him for weeks. Before the speech, aides suggested that any questions about the issues would be cut off.

"I have felt the sting of discrimination,” he said, to cheers from the crowd, which included many members of the state Legislature and U.S. Rep. Donald M. Payne Jr. D-Essex. “It has never been easy.”

“Now we face anonymous, faceless, nameless individuals … seeking to destroy a lifetime of work,” he said. “In the end, I believe that justice will overcome the forces of darkness.”

So yes ,he is playing the race card ,blaming right wing bloggers for his problems resulting from his criminal and unethical behavior .

Tuttyd · Feb 28, 2013, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

The headline in the North Jersey .com

the text :

So yes ,he is playing the race card ,blaming right wing bloggers for his problems resulting from his criminal and unethical behavior .

Absolute nonsense Tom.

The North Jersey article is accurate. It only ever mentions discrimination. There is no mention of racial discrimination in the so called left wing article. Compare this with the Daily Caller and you will see what I mean.

Tut

smoothy · Feb 28, 2013, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Stop blaming the wingers for taking sensational headlines and right wing bloggers as factual. They have a right believe whatever crap they want to!!!!!!!!

As opposed to the obvious leftist propaganda you defend?

tomder55 · Feb 28, 2013, 06:44 AM

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tomder55 · Feb 28, 2013, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Tuttyd

Absolute nonsense Tom.

The North Jersey article is accurate. It only ever mentions discrimination. There is no mention of racial discrimination in the so called left wing article. Compare this with the Daily Caller and you will see what I mean.

Tut

What type of discrimination do you think this Hispanic Senator is speaking to the largely black audience about ?

Tuttyd · Feb 28, 2013, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

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No it doesn't. There are many different form of discrimination. Given his Hispanic background and given the fact there is no Hispanic race. The discrimination would be based on his ethnicity.

Hence the difference in the headlines.

Tut

tomder55 · Feb 28, 2013, 06:50 AM

A distinction without a difference . You are deluding yourself if you think the intent of Menendez's words were not to link his recent struggles to a racial issue .

Tuttyd · Feb 28, 2013, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

a distinction without a difference . You are deluding yourself if you think the intent of Menendez's words were not to link his recent struggles to a racial issue .

Of course there is a big difference between racial aspects and ethnic aspects . I am not talking about the impact on the individuals because that is similar.

Would you like me to Google the difference between biology and sociology for you?

Tut

tomder55 · Feb 28, 2013, 07:31 AM

No ;we can end this because you are nitpicking without being serious about the intent of Menendez' words .

smoothy · Feb 28, 2013, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

no ;we can end this because you are nitpicking without being serious about the intent of Menendez' words .

I think the real issue with Menendez is where he was sticking his wiener... and in whom... (underage teen prostitutes in the Dominican Republic.

Sex tourism for the intent of playing with children in any other country is something that can be and has been pursued resulting in lengthy prison sentences.

Why should Menendez be given a break because he's Latino or a Democrat?

They should go after him with the same gusto they go after any other guy who have slept with underage girls.

excon · Feb 28, 2013, 07:59 AM

Hello again, tom:

What should we call convicting somebody WITHOUT a trial, based on nothing more than rumor and innuendo?

excon

smoothy · Feb 28, 2013, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

What should we call convicting somebody WITHOUT a trial, based on nothing more than rumor and innuendo?

excon

Being a Democrat?

You guys did this with BOTH Bushes as well as Regan. Not to mention Cheney and Carl Rove... and a number of other Republicans.

tomder55 · Feb 28, 2013, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

What should we call convicting somebody WITHOUT a trial, based on nothing more than rumor and innuendo?

excon

Really ? Is that the position you take with the Catholic church ?

speechlesstx · Feb 28, 2013, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

What should we call convicting somebody WITHOUT a trial, based on nothing more than rumor and innuendo?

excon

The "war on women"?

Tuttyd · Mar 1, 2013, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

no ;we can end this because you are nitpicking without being serious about the intent of Menendez' words .

Tom, it's really very simple. Even if Menendez wanted to play the race card, he couldn't. Hispanism, as the name suggests is a cultural heritage. You can't play a card that doesn't exist. The card he is playing is the ethnic card because it is the only card in his cultural deck. He doesn't have a race card to play.

You know, Logic 101 and all of that.

New Jersey.com got it right. Daily Caller got it wrong. That's a distinction with a difference.