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    #321

    Jan 28, 2013, 03:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    And you will pay a premium for that "benefit":
    Attachment 42575

    The vast majority of phones are sold subsidized and locked, with a term plan.
    Yes, but if I've fulfilled my contract I should be free to do what I want with my phone without fear of penalty. Plus I'm sure this new rule will lead to even more electronic waste.
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    #322

    Jan 28, 2013, 03:39 PM
    Or smarter buying habits.
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    #323

    Jan 28, 2013, 03:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Or smarter buying habits.
    Good luck with that.
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    #324

    Jan 28, 2013, 04:09 PM
    Yes, but if I've fulfilled my contract I should be free to do what I want with my phone without fear of penalty.
    I totally agree. Some 83 year old guy who likely has never owned a smartphone made that ruling.
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    #325

    Jan 28, 2013, 09:56 PM
    Or industry lobbyist, there are a million of those suckers around.
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    #326

    Jan 29, 2013, 02:59 AM
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    #327

    Jan 29, 2013, 03:37 AM
    Or industry lobbyist, there are a million of those suckers around.
    There is absolutely no doubt. It's the only way that ruling makes any sense.
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    #328

    Jan 29, 2013, 07:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Or industry lobbyist, there are a million of those suckers around.
    I'm sure the lobbyists wanted this, all the more reason why an unelected bureaucrat should not have the power to unilaterally issue such a ruling.
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    #329

    Jan 29, 2013, 09:41 AM
    Meanwhile in Canada: Wireless fee, contract guidelines proposed by CRTC - Technology & Science - CBC News

    Every once in a while we do things right. :)
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    #330

    Jan 30, 2013, 01:40 AM
    Yep very needed reforn in most telco markets
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    #331

    Jan 30, 2013, 09:55 AM
    Who wants to be a ‘death panelist’?
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    #332

    Jan 30, 2013, 10:37 AM
    Why talk of non-existent Obamacare death panels won't die
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    #333

    Jan 30, 2013, 10:46 AM
    Interesting, on the 9th of January Sarah Kliff tells us "why talk of non-existent Obamacare death panels won’t die" - then talks about death panels 9 days later.

    I think you missed the point of the first column. I'm guessing because you didn't actually read it.
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    #334

    Jan 30, 2013, 10:54 AM
    It's the other way around - you obviously didn't read your article, nor the other one I posted. :D
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    #335

    Jan 30, 2013, 11:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It's the other way around - you obviously didn't read your article, nor the other one I posted. :D
    Dude, the obvious went right over your head. I feel sorry for you.
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    #336

    Jan 30, 2013, 01:24 PM
    I feel sorry for you.
    Don't, I'm a happy guy that took a day off to be with my kids on this storm day. We're having fun.

    Tell me what you get from this excerpt:
    Nyhan had 948 survey participants read an article from 2009 about Palin’s statement on death panels. Some had favorable opinions of the former governor of Alaska; others did not. The respondents ran the gamut in their knowledge of current politics.
    All read a story about Palin’s 2009 statement, which brought death panels into the mainstream debate. Some had this correction appended to the end of the story:

    Nonpartisan health care experts have concluded that Palin is wrong. The bill in the House of Representatives would require Medicare to pay for voluntary end-of-life counseling sessions, but there is no panel in any of the health care bills in Congress that judges a person’s “level of productivity in society” to determine whether they are “worthy” of health care.

    For Palin supporters and opponents alike, low-information voters’ belief in the death panels decreased after reading this correction.

    But something different happened among high information voters. Those with cold feelings towards Palin acted like the low information voters, with their belief in death panels dropping.
    For high information Palin supporters though, the correction backfired: They appeared more likely to believe in death panels after reading the appended information, and have less favorable opinions of the Affordable Care Act.
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    #337

    Jan 30, 2013, 02:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Don't, I'm a happy guy that took a day off to be with my kids on this storm day. We're having fun.

    Tell me what you get from this excerpt:
    I feel exactly as before, it was irrelevant to my post other than the same writer explained why death panels won't die them discussed death panels... and why no one wants the job.
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    #338

    Jan 30, 2013, 02:50 PM
    I should be able to round up 14 more people (besides myself) to serve on the Independent Payment Advisory Board.
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    #339

    Jan 30, 2013, 03:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I should be able to round up 14 more people (besides myself) to serve on the Independent Payment Advisory Board.
    No offense, but that's kind of scary. ;)
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    #340

    Jan 30, 2013, 03:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No offense, but that's kinda scary. ;)
    I'll promise that half of us will be Republican (i.e. team of rivals). How's that?

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