[Wondergirl]

I just read an article that "guest worker" status would be next to indentured servanthood and can be greatly misused by an employer. I wonder if there is a way to keep that upfront and honest.

[speechlesstx]

I just read an article that "guest worker" status would be next to indentured servanthood and can be greatly misused by an employer. I wonder if there is a way to keep that upfront and honest.

What article?

[Wondergirl]

What article?

Does this work for you, or I will copy all or part of the article.

[speechlesstx]

Thanks. I thought excon wanted them to wash our dishes and pick our pistachios. Now what?

[talaniman]

Just waiting to hear your opinion so we don't put words in your mouth. Do you support green cards for the undocumented shadow workers while we keep working to secure the borders better, or not?

[Wondergirl]

Thanks. I thought excon wanted them to wash our dishes and pick our pistachios. now what?

They still can, but not as slaves. Oh, and don't forget picking lettuce.

I picked Bing cherries every summer during high school, but most high schoolers nowadays refuse to do work that is so menial and low-paying. So let's treat with respect and decent wages those who are willing to pick our produce (and clean our motel rooms and do the restaurant kitchen scut work).

[speechlesstx]

Just waiting to hear your opinion so we don't put words in your mouth. Do you support green cards for the undocumented shadow workers while we keep working to secure the borders better, or not?

I think you can deduce my opinion from what I said. No, everyone doesn't get a green card, we need to know who is here, there MUST be conditions whether you like it or not. I'm looking out for the country, the illegals who should be allowed to stay, your neighbors, etc - not just trying to pad voter rolls and pander.

P.S. Still waiting on ex to respond to this.

[tomder55]

I see the Dems have common cause with business after all.. . cheap labor .

[Wondergirl]

This is probably the wrong thread to post this on, but I envision public libraries as being the main place, the "middleman" so to speak between individuals and government, where illegals learn English and all the other things they will need to become citizens.

[talaniman]

I think you can deduce my opinion from what I said. No, everyone doesn't get a green card, we need to know who is here, there MUST be conditions whether you like it or not. I'm looking out for the country, the illegals who should be allowed to stay, your neighbors, etc - not just trying to pad voter rolls and pander.

P.S. Still waiting on ex to respond to this.

USCIS - Voting Rights

Non-U.S. citizens, including permanent residents (green card holders), who vote, or register to vote, in a federal election also can be denied naturalization and/or removed (deported) from the United States.

Your lack of FACTS again leads you to false conclusions, so since voting is not an option for green card holders, what's your problem in giving them the option of WORKING... legally? For that a green card IS required.

[speechlesstx]

USCIS - Voting Rights



Your lack of FACTS again leads you to false conclusions, so since voting is not an option for green card holders, whats your problem in giving them the option of WORKING.........................legally? For that a green card IS required.

I may have been born at night but it wasn't last night. Expanding their constituency has always been part of the push for a "path to citizenship" (citizens can vote) by Democrats.

[talaniman]

What of your own pandering to Latinos with this sudden interest in immigration reform? That's not to expand your voter base? It is for moderate republicans, or the Rino's of your party.

Hmm wonder why you think more Latino voters will run to our side, and not to YOURS. After all isn't Ted Cruz the right wing TParty poster boy? Texas also elected Joaquin Castro to the house, a dem.

[speechlesstx]

What of your own pandering to latinos with this sudden interest in immigration reform? That's not to expand your voter base? It is for moderate republicans, or the Rinos of your party.

Sudden interest? Dude, Rubio - the guy leading the charge - IS from an immigrant family in a state overflowing with immigrants, legal and illegal.I think he's been interested all along.

Hmm wonder why you think more latino voters will run to our side, and not to YOURS. After all isn't Ted Cruz the right wing TParty poster boy?

It's pretty easy, your side will promise them anything.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I asked you for details first. But no, I don't believe every illegal deserves to stay, I'm sure there are some you wouldn't want in your neighborhood.

Undocumented workers that have been convicted of crimes have already been deported. Therefore, I assume the remaining people will make just fine neighbors...

What is YOUR criteria??

Excon

[talaniman]

It's pretty easy, your side will promise them anything.

Just a fair shake.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

Undocumented workers that have been convicted of crimes have already been deported. Therefore, I assume the remaining people will make just fine neighbors...

What is YOUR criteria???

excon

In other words you're OK with not knowing who is here. Not me.

P.S. Still waiting on which remarks by Cruz were so offensive and exactly how he's a "chicken hawk." Did he dodge the draft or something?

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Mexico has no central database to check, and they're the MOST advanced Latino nation... I'd LIKE to know who's here, but since I CAN'T, they get the benefit of the doubt...

If you haven't served in the military, to say that two decorated, wounded veterans of war don't LOVE the military like you do, is highly OFFENSIVE.

You're welcome to this dirt bag.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

Mexico has no central database to check, and they're the MOST advanced Latino nation... I'd LIKE to know who's here, but since I CAN'T, they get the benefit of the doubt...

If you haven't served in the military, to say that two decorated, wounded veterans of war don't LOVE the military like you do, is highly OFFENSIVE.

You're welcome to this dirt bag.

Excon

That's OK, I found your source. Come on dude, "less than ardent fans of the U.S. military" is hardly something to get apoplectic about and I still see nothing that supports the "chickenhawk" label, as in actively avoiding military service. Apparently he chose to get an education instead of enlisting - how dare he?!

By the way, Senator Dan Coats served in the army and seems to support Cruz' observation. Is he allowed to criticize him?

"I don’t know how you can nominate someone and make them Secretary of Defense who has had so much disrespect for the military," Coats told radio host Tom Rose. "And said so many public things in opposition to the military, what it stands for, the values that it holds. Chuck has alienated an awful lot of people."

[Wondergirl]

I still see nothing that supports the "chickenhawk" label, as in actively avoiding military service. Apparently he chose to get an education instead of enlisting - how dare he?!!!

Isn't that also true of Dems we know and love?

[speechlesstx]

Isn't that also true of Dems we know and love?

I don't know, I haven't called anyone a chickenhawk that I can recall.