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speechlesstx · Jan 25, 2013, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Wasn't that the big effort five minutes before the November elections? And you guys dropped the ball now?

5 minutes? Those laws were in the works for YEARS in some cases. I was right the first time, there is nothing that will satisfy the left's objection to voter ID laws.

Wondergirl · Jan 25, 2013, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

5 minutes? Those laws were in the works for YEARS in some cases. I was right the first time, there is nothing that will satisfy the left's objection to voter ID laws.

Not the efforts that were objected to, the efforts made at the last minute.

talaniman · Jan 25, 2013, 01:49 PM

You must think we are dumb to think you can use a legitimate argument that really has no merits given the cases of voter fraud over the last 10 years, to hide the real motives to suppress the minority vote. Even while you were doing other underhanded stuff with your own republican voter registration firms that were found to be fraudulent.

Tricks and traps that frankly was an attempt to cheat the American public to gain an election victory. And you seem to be at it again, this time claiming the democrats in the city unfairly outnumber the repubs in the burbs.

That's a good one.

speechlesstx · Jan 25, 2013, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Not the efforts that were objected to, the efforts made at the last minute.

What last minute efforts?

speechlesstx · Jan 25, 2013, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

You must think we are dumb to think you can use a legitimate argument that really has no merits given the cases of voter fraud over the last 10 years, to hide the real motives to suppress the minority vote. Even while you were doing other underhanded stuff with your own republican voter registration firms that were found to be fraudulent.

Tricks and traps that frankly was an attempt to cheat the American public to gain an election victory. And you seem to be at it again, this time claiming the democrats in the city unfairly outnumber the repubs in the burbs.

Thats a good one.

I'm not moved by whining about legal tactics that Democrats are all too willing to use as well. But before the election I believe you said voter fraud wasn't a problem. Now you say there were 5 million cases?

Wondergirl · Jan 25, 2013, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

What last minute efforts?

Shall we start with Florida?

tomder55 · Jan 25, 2013, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Here's what MY information tells me about the 2012 election IF the vote rigging scheme had been in effect.

Romney WINS!

Nope ,that's only true if ALL the states adopted the plan. If only the 6 states you are talking about did it ,Obama still wins.

If these six battleground states were to adopt the congressional district method of awarding electoral votes, it would not guarantee a Republican victory in the 2016 presidential election but it would make such a victory much more likely. That’s because the congressional district lines in these states were gerrymandered by Republican legislatures following the 2010 census to give their party a huge advantage. As a result, even though Obama carried all six states in 2012, it appears that Romney carried 61 House districts in these states to only 33 for Obama. Romney appears to have carried 16 of 27 House districts in Florida, 9 of 14 House districts in Michigan, 12 of 16 House districts in Ohio, 12 of 18 House districts in Pennsylvania, 7 of 11 House districts in Virginia and 5 of 8 House districts in Wisconsin.

If the congressional district system had been used in these six states in 2012, instead of Obama winning all of their 106 electoral votes, it appears that Romney would have won 61 electoral votes to only 45 for Obama. As a result, Obama’s margin in the national electoral vote would have been reduced from 332-206 to only 271-267.

Larry J. Sabato's Crystal Ball » REPUBLICAN ELECTORAL COLLEGE PLAN WOULD UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY
Anyway ,Governor McDonnell in VA. Opposes the plan .So it isn't happening there .But there are already a number of states that plan to go winner take all to the popular vote winner. That will also distort the election results .

speechlesstx · Jan 25, 2013, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Shall we start with Florida?

Be my guest. And all the other "last minute" efforts while you're at it.

smoothy · Jan 25, 2013, 04:33 PM

Funny that you can't buy a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of beer legally without an ID.. nor can you open a bank account, but lefties think you should be able to vote without one.

Wondergirl · Jan 25, 2013, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Funny that you can't buy a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of beer legally without an ID..nor can you open a bank account, .but lefties think you should be able to vote without one.

That is not true!! Just not ID demanded five minutes before Election Day.

smoothy · Jan 25, 2013, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

That is not true!!! Just not ID demanded five minutes before Election Day.

It wasn't 5 minutes before election day... and It should ALWAYS have been required... when you have over 20 million illegals running loose, you HAVE to be certain people have the RIGHT to vote before allowing them to vote.

Most other countries REQUIRE an ID before you can vote. The ONLY reason to not require one.. is because people that fight against it WANT illegals voting. And not just illegals... they believe dead people are entitled to their right to vote.. as are people in comas.. and Alzheimers patients.

speechlesstx · Jan 25, 2013, 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=Wondergirl;3379152]That is not true!! Just not ID demanded five minutes before Election Day.[/QOTE]

Still waiting for more on all those 'last minute' efforts.

speechlesstx · Jan 25, 2013, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Funny that you can't buy a pack of cigarettes or a bottle of beer legally without an ID..nor can you open a bank account, .but lefties think you should be able to vote without one.

Some lib in Oregon wants to require a prescription to buy smokes. Getting pot and a suicide would probably be easier.

talaniman · Jan 25, 2013, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I'm not moved by whining about legal tactics that Democrats are all too willing to use as well. But before the election I believe you said voter fraud wasn't a problem. Now you say there were 5 million cases?

Well obviously there were 5 million cases of voter fraud since my guy won depite all your tricks and traps to suppress the minority vote.

Some lib in Oregon wants to require a prescription to buy smokes. Getting pot and a suicide would probably be easier.

Some loony in New Mexico wants rape victims who get pregnan to carry the baby to term or else face jail for tampering with evidence.

Hey settle down do your ID laws, because people have plenty of time before the mid terms, and you can either get more voter machines, or more early voting. And we can slam you for trying to rig an election... AGAIN!

Some guys never learn.

excon · Mar 6, 2013, 01:03 PM

Hello again,

Two employees of a company once aligned with the Republican Party of Florida admitted to law-enforcement authorities that they forged voter registration forms.

I wonder if any Democrats have been charged in Florida for CHEATING... NAHH, they HAVEN'T.

excon

smoothy · Mar 6, 2013, 01:13 PM

I only reffer back to the 2000 and 2004 elections where the lefties tried to steal the elections in court.

talaniman · Mar 6, 2013, 02:32 PM

But it was a good thing George had his brother Jeb as Govenor to make sure that didn't happen.

speechlesstx · Mar 6, 2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Two employees of a company once aligned with the Republican Party of Florida admitted to law-enforcement authorities that they forged voter registration forms.

I wonder if any Democrats have been charged in Florida for CHEATING... NAHH, they HAVEN'T.

excon

Um, that was a COMPANY, not the GOP, which fired them way back. Actual fraud and shenanigans by Democrats, not employees of someone else unaffiliated with the party, has already been documented here. And here. And I'm sure elsewhere.

smoothy · Mar 6, 2013, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

But it was a good thing George had his brother Jeb as Govenor to make sure that didn't happen.

Like that had anything to do with it... and I'm sure no democrat Governor worked against Owebamas competition the last two elections...

The courts proved Bush won fair and square... Gore and Kerry tried to cheat...

At least Kerry was man enough to admit he lost fair and square... I don't like him but I have to give him credit for that... Gore is a wuss and a sore loser... a small minded man with an even smaller wiener... that has to compensate for it with his bloviating and chest beating.

excon · Mar 6, 2013, 05:58 PM

Hello again, smoothy:

Gore is a wuss and a sore loser... a small minded man with an even smaller wiener.

Well, I've got this HUGE HUMONGOUS wiener, as do most liberals. So, of course, we WIN.

Excon