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    #61

    Jan 21, 2013, 09:30 AM
    The budget submitted by the Republican House did not have any privatization plans in it . Not only that ;according the CBO ,Social Security spending would rise... from 4.75 percent of GDP in 2011 to 6 percent of GDP in 2030.
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    #62

    Jan 21, 2013, 09:31 AM
    Hello Carol:

    Right wingers don't now, nor have they EVER supported entitlements. To anybody who can read, the Ryan plan ENDS Medicare as we know it.

    To the right wing brain, that's saving it.

    Back in Vietnam, right wingers justified destroying villages in order to save them. The right wing brain hasn't morphed from THAT.

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    Jan 21, 2013, 09:36 AM
    Nothing will destroy Medicare faster than Obamacare .
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    Jan 21, 2013, 09:44 AM
    BS back to you, as it provides "premium assistance" at such a low level while shifting costs to the recipient, and gives free reign to business to structure benefits and cost to its own business model, while provide an even greater profit margin through lower taxes and a weak regulatory process.

    "Entitlements" go from no profit, to for profit. But of course that's the goal of capitalism isn't it? Make as much money as they can off anything they can? Sure it is just be honest and tell your kids and grand kids how they will support capitalism in their old age so make sure they invest in Wall Street, today so business can profit tomorrow when they are old and ready to retire. Oh and tell them why they have to work until they are 70, or beyond because you needed solvency according to the capitalists ideas of profit over people, even your own kids.

    Come on Tom, is that all you got? "MO MONEY FO" ME", "Got mine get what's left". "We're broke and can't afford old people, poor people, and kids, but the rich guy is taxed unfairly."

    That didn't work so get a better idea.
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    Jan 21, 2013, 10:34 AM
    Wish I know what you are talking about . I certainly didn't say what you attribute to me.

    Obamacare takes $530B from a system that was already in fiscal crisis (nine years away from not being able to pay out current benefits before Obamacare cuts ) .In addition ,Obamacare is designed to destroy Medicare Advantage, a program 12 million seniors use.Obama in fact is the only President since the program was created that slashes money and benefits from Medicare.
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    Jan 21, 2013, 01:08 PM
    You call yourself a capitalist so you may not have said the things I wrote, but you support the ones who did, and as to the rest of your claims,also taken from the rightie capitalists you supported, Mitt and Paul,

    Obamacare takes $530B from a system that was already in fiscal crisis (nine years away from not being able to pay out current benefits before Obamacare cuts ) .In addition ,Obamacare is designed to destroy Medicare Advantage, a program 12 million seniors use.Obama in fact is the only President since the program was created that slashes money and benefits from Medicare.
    This line of campaign rhetoric was debunked along with the 47% that pay no taxes are lazy takers, that Obama has taken the work from the welfare law, and rich guys are job creators, women need to be told what to do with their bodies, and corporations are people too, my friend. And my favorite from you guys, we can balance the budget on the backs of the poor, women, children, elderly, and shrinking middle class and let he rich guys and the church take care of the poor and give them MO MONEY to do it with, any way they see fit.

    That notion was rejected by a 5 million people margin nationwide. You cannot keep ignoring that FACT!
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    Jan 21, 2013, 02:03 PM
    Of course he is ignoring the facts Tal he is in deniel, Ronmey didn't loose the election, it's just his inaugration will be delayed by a technicality for four years
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    #68

    Jan 21, 2013, 02:08 PM
    Romney who?
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    #69

    Jan 21, 2013, 02:15 PM
    Exactly he joined the ranks of those other nonentities
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    Jan 21, 2013, 02:16 PM
    Mittens was the Republic sacrificial lamb... he was doomed when he decided to play it clean ands didn't take the gloves off... while Obama called him a criminal.
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    #71

    Jan 21, 2013, 02:26 PM
    Still in deniel Tom he was doomed from the start, his own attitudes betrayed him. Let's face it he is an elitest, he is not a man of the people and the people decided he wasn't what was needed. I know democracy is a bummer sometimes
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    Jan 21, 2013, 02:37 PM
    Nobody but you thinks he played it clean. He screwed up when he was afraid to reveal his taxes and got us all wondering WHY?

    Hell Tom, he admitted him and his crowd of "job creators" deserved a raise, and the rest of us (yeah you guys too) didn't deserve squat, and had too much already. You guys put him up to it while the real presidential hopefuls sat this one out.

    Anybody but Mitt!!
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    #73

    Jan 21, 2013, 03:08 PM
    I agree I voted for his because he was the last one standing .Elitist ? I suppose Of course the Dems supported an elitist in 2004 ,and will fully support the same man for Sec State . So ,I don't think that is /was a factor .
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    Jan 21, 2013, 03:13 PM
    I think the electorate decided it was Tom just as they did with Kerry
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    #75

    Jan 21, 2013, 03:27 PM
    Two elitist in 2004. Bush was from a family of the upper crust even if he did torture the English language.
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    Jan 21, 2013, 04:33 PM
    Another reply vanished in the wind
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    #77

    Jan 22, 2013, 07:27 AM
    Hello again,

    Obama 2.0 tried it the Republicans way.. Didn't work. Now, he's going to attack them from the back door. He's using the organization that elected him, to PROMOTE his agenda. Nobody's ever done that before. I think it'll work. He's already shown a toughness that was ABSENT during the first term.

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    #78

    Jan 22, 2013, 07:48 AM
    ... he will have to forge a new coalition sans the Jeffersonians ,aka blue dogs ,aka Reagan Dems . They will run from him big time with major changes in gun laws. Why do you think Harry Reid is so reluctant to embrace the President's rhetoric on guns ? There are enough Senators from Red states to swing the Senate to Republic in 2014.
    Add to that , the Schmuckster is talking about additional taxes in a Senate Budget. They've already squeezed the rich... so new taxes will be coming down hard on the middle income folks... who are already dealing with the end of the temporary payroll deduction break ;and new Obamacare taxes on the way.
    Finally ,the President's economic polices are fundamentally flawed and will likely push us back into recession .
    So let him have his moment of glory now. He is misreading his mandate . His inaugural address ;and advice he got from the moron on CBS is clear over reach . He will come crawling to the table in short order.
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    #79

    Jan 22, 2013, 08:07 AM
    Still trying to bring the guy to his knees huh? Don't feel bad Tom, I said the same things about Reagan and survived his union busting trickle down a$$. And the dope dealing, Bush who came after him.

    No doubt you will survive this guy. Damn the world would be different if Carter had thought of trading hostages for machine guns and grenades like Reagan did,and used crack to fiancé it.
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    #80

    Jan 22, 2013, 08:46 AM
    Yeah Carter made a mistake. He should've completely ignored them like Obama did this week.

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