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    Jan 6, 2013, 09:10 AM
    Verbral agreements in the state of pa the law of them
    I entered in to a verbral agreegment with some that agreement was she was paying me a year in advance for the cleaning of her aprt so I could buy a new motor for my car. Since then her sister and I had a fight and the said person has now said they want payments at hundred dollars a month anddot for me to clean so in essance they are breaking the agreement do I have to pay this miney back since they broke the orginial agreement ?
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    Jan 6, 2013, 09:44 AM
    Verbal agreements need some substance behind them and the people who give the money on verbal agreement often lose in court. Your story as written isn't easy to follow. You were given a lump sum to clean for a year, now that person wants the rest of the money back, minus 100/mo for breaking the agreement?
    When did this start, and when did you get paid?
    I'm concerned because there is a common scam that involves a fake cashier's check and a demand for a refund before your bank finds out that it's fake, which can be as much as 2 or 3 weeks.
    If you really have the money, please clarify the questions above.
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    Jan 6, 2013, 10:11 AM
    Hello nancy:

    Your agreement is valid. I'd WRITE her a certified letter, return receipt requested, and INFORM her that you're willing to adhere to the terms of your agreement, and nothing else. Tell her further, that if that's not satisfactory, she should sue you in small claims court. Otherwise, you'll be there on your next regular cleaning day..

    IF she should sue you, you'll win.

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    Jan 6, 2013, 10:45 AM
    I'll bet anything this is a scam... I've heard several variations on it, but they all involve trying to get a cash refund before the fake check bounces.
    Who pays a year in advance for housework? No one.
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    Jan 6, 2013, 04:14 PM
    Hello joy:

    If it was a scam, it would be the OTHER person complaining.. Not, the OP.. The OP is the one who got the money.

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    Jan 6, 2013, 06:29 PM
    excon, the scam is this, and it's common: the scammer sends a cashier's check for a large sum, claiming they are out of the country. The check is drawn on a foreign bank, so it takes a long time to clear. Then the scammer invents some way to get some of it back - either they made a mistake because their English isn't good, or something like this one - a fight. It's a variation on the purchase of a large item with extra for shipping, to be handed in cash to a courier who comes to pick up the item. The seller loses the item and some cash, and the check is fake, despite the fact that cashier checks are 'guaranteed' funds.

    Plus - note that OP hasn't been back to answer. Not a good sign.
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    Jan 6, 2013, 08:05 PM
    I don't know, he says he cleaned their house, so there is a physcial place and a sister.

    But this is the issue, there is no penalty in writing or terms about breaking contract.

    The issue here is, he was paid for one years service in advance ( bad idea) and they want him to stop cleaning the house.

    So he needs to show up to clean the house as promised, and let them refuse to have him clean. So he can say he showed up.

    They ( person who is getting the cleaning done) will need to sue him for the money back.

    I would not pay anyone back at this point
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    Jan 7, 2013, 04:35 AM
    I don't see where it says that the house was cleaned.
    (I'll put money on this being a scam that started less than 2 weeks ago.)
    Often the person scammed is busy trying to deal with all the money they shelled out for bills due and new purchases, based on the non-existent funds. They aren't just out the fee for the fake check, but also all the fees for checks they write that bounce, plus creditors old and new.

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