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    #1021

    Jan 4, 2013, 09:53 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Then tell me what you meant by the media NOT vetting him. You think FOX News vetted him? They TOLD you about his pals, the terrorists... What MORE do you want? Do you believe the movie 2016 is VETTING him. What about the Sins of My Father? Do you believe THAT?

    What do YOU know that we DON'T know?

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    #1022

    Jan 4, 2013, 10:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Then tell me what you meant by the media NOT vetting him. You think FOX News vetted him? They TOLD you about his pals, the terrorists... What MORE do you want? Do you believe the movie 2016 is VETTING him. What about the Sins of My Father? Do you believe THAT??

    What do YOU know that we DON'T know?

    excon
    We've had all those discussion, the media hasn't.
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    #1023

    Jan 4, 2013, 10:44 AM
    Let me help you out. When someone who has insider access like Bob Woodward says that Obama is still a mystery to him... then don't you think that perhaps the press isn't doing it's job ?
    Bob Woodward: ?Who is Barack Obama?? - Emily Schultheis - POLITICO.com
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    Jan 4, 2013, 11:04 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    I think that's Bob Woodward.. Bob Woodward ISN'T the press.

    So, let's get down to it... The main stream media DIDN'T vet Obama, but FOX did... Ok, so what? He was VETTED. Do you think FOX has an audience SOOOO small that NOBODY else in the country KNEW he palled around with terrorists?? IF the liberal press didn't tell them, Sarah Palin surly did.

    Is it just possible, that people didn't CARE? Is it possible that people DID know what FOX thought, and elected him ANYWAY? Do you REALLY think the electorate is BLIND??

    Ok, never mind... I think you DO believe the country is under the spell of the liberal media, and only FOX watchers know what's going on..

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

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    Jan 4, 2013, 11:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    I think that's Bob Woodward.. Bob Woodward ISN'T the press.

    So, let's get down to it... The main stream media DIDN'T vet Obama, but FOX did... Ok, so what? He was VETTED. Do you think FOX has an audience SOOOO small that NOBODY else in the country KNEW he palled around with terrorists??? IF the liberal press didn't tell them, Sarah Palin surly did.

    Is it just possible, that people didn't CARE? Is it possible that people DID know what FOX thought, and elected him ANYWAY? Do you REALLY think the electorate is BLIND???

    Ok, never mind... I think you DO believe the country is under the spell of the liberal media, and only FOX watchers know what's going on..

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

    excon
    Funny you should mention Palin, just compare her vetting in the media to Obama's. She got more scrutiny in a month than he's gotten in six years.
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    Jan 4, 2013, 11:14 AM
    Explain how a reporter of Woodward's stature ;a man who has had insider access through the President's 1st term ;and has written a few books about his Presidency ,can still say the President is a mystery .
    I think the press will spill the beans after he is out of office . Yes I think they intentionally have not covered in detail many aspects of the President before he was in office... and they still gloss over many of the issues of his Presidency.
    How many days was Katrina in the news ? How many days has the press concentrated on the fiasco which is the Federal response to Sandy ? The President said he's cut the red tape .Well that didn't happen . FEMA was virtually MIA throughout this... and that's just one example.
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    #1027

    Jan 4, 2013, 11:34 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    explain how a reporter of Woodward's stature ;a man who has had insider access through the President's 1st term ;and has written a few books about his Presidency ,can still say the President is a mystery .
    If he wasn't talking about his past, I.E. birtherism, then it's because he IS a mystery.

    What is it you DON'T know about him that worries you? Besides, I don't know what you MEAN by mystery... Are there gaps in his life story that need filling? Is THAT when he underwent terrorist training?? If there IS stuff, why weren't the crack reporters at FOX able to uncover it? You're not going to mention sealed college records, are you, because that's BIRTHERISM?

    I'm sorry... All I detect from you is a heightened sense of paranoia.

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    #1028

    Jan 4, 2013, 11:39 AM
    She got more scrutiny in a month than he's gotten in six years.
    She gave the media all the material they needed with every public appearance. Even Fox dumped her.
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    #1029

    Jan 4, 2013, 11:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    She gave the media all the material they needed with every public appearance. Even Fox dumped her.
    If she gave them all they needed there was no need for the “media colonoscopy” she endured.
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    #1030

    Jan 4, 2013, 11:58 AM
    Most of the time they just reported what she said and that was enough.
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    #1031

    Jan 4, 2013, 12:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Most of the time they just reported what she said and that was enough.
    Stop pretending they didn't dig into her personal and professional life and that of her family relentlessly. Geez, give it up dude.
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    #1032

    Jan 4, 2013, 12:16 PM
    Ok.
    Have a great day!
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    #1033

    Jan 4, 2013, 01:22 PM
    Lets just say the lame stream media did a lousy job. That means YOU guys did an even worse one since you didn't find the dirt either.

    Lets face it, you had a lousy primary, a lousy message, a lousy candidate, so you got lousy results. Spin it any way you want but Anybody But Obama didn't work. Neither did We Love You Women.

    Maybe you do love them in your own way, but they didn't fall for it. To be fair the new congress on our side has a bunch of new women even some gays, so maybe hollering loud and saying nothing may NOT be a credible strategy going forward.

    I betcha.
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    #1034

    Jan 4, 2013, 02:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Lets just say the lame stream media did a lousy job. That means YOU guys did an even worse one since you didn't find the dirt either.

    Lets face it, you had a lousy primary, a lousy message, a lousy candidate, so you got lousy results. Spin it any way you want but Anybody But Obama didn't work. Neither did We Love You Women.

    Maybe you do love them in your own way, but they didn't fall for it. To be fair the new congress on our side has a bunch of new women even some gays, so maybe hollering loud and saying nothing may NOT be a credible strategy going forward.

    I betcha.
    Yeah I know, to your side a Republican woman isn't really a woman just a like a Republican black really isn't a black. At least we don't denigrate them that way.
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    Jan 5, 2013, 08:10 AM
    You don't have enough of either to make a difference at the voting booth.
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    #1036

    Jan 5, 2013, 08:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Yeah I know, to your side a Republican woman isn't really a woman just a like a Republican black really isn't a black. At least we don't denigrate them that way.
    Then why have Christian Republicans held me back since I was a kid? I could never do or have whatever because I was female.
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    #1037

    Jan 5, 2013, 08:24 AM
    Hello WG:

    Then why have Christian Republicans held me back since I was a kid? I could never do or have whatever because I was female.
    Shhhhh, you'll remind them that they've BEEN at war with women for a LONG, LONG time.

    You saw what tom said about the Lilly Ledbetter law.. He called her Lilly Bedwetter... I suppose it's because she wanted to be paid the same as guys are, and had the TEMERITY to SPEAK up. Clearly, she does NOT know her place.

    But, there's no war. Look over there at the commie Marxist...

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    Jan 5, 2013, 08:38 AM
    No war on women huh, then why hasn't the house passed the violence against women act? Because it expand protection to all women (and men), illegal or gay and soveriegn Indian nations within our borders?
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    #1039

    Jan 5, 2013, 02:29 PM
    No Tal it just they are lazy
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    #1040

    Jan 5, 2013, 03:00 PM
    No because as usual the Dems added all types of bs to their Senate version of the bill . If it was only a violence against women bill like it was when it was passed over a decade ago ,there would be no issues. But the Dems added provisions that were different to the bill passed in the House . The reconciliation process was not complete before the 112 th Congress ended.
    Tal just threw out another phony issue. I'm sure it will be reintroduced in this session .

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