[excon]

Hello again, tom:

around here we are sinking in red ink.

Well, taxing the poor ain't going to fix it.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello Flat Earther:

excon

Nope, I've seen the pictures of earth from space. But if you're referring to the terrain where I live you would be right.

[paraclete]

Love those mountains

[speechlesstx]

We don't have any above ground mountains here, but we have a gorgeous canyon a few miles south.

[paraclete]

Spectacular

[speechlesstx]

Speaking of the Talkfest in Qatar, it was announced there that "The amount of heat-trapping pollution the world spewed rose again last year by 3 percent."

In spite of this emissions in the U.S. were down 2%, thanks largely to... hydraulic fracturing.

Cheaper, cleaner, abundant, emissions lowering fuel which doesn't kill bald eagles or ruin a good view of Cape Cod in the process. What's not to love?

[paraclete]

Fracking is destroying the environment as much as burning coal. It releases fugative methane emissions as well as poisoning the water table. Methane is many times more a problem than CO2 and is serious atmospheric pollution. You have traded emissions you can track for those you can't, a nice piece of slight of hand, and in any case you are cheating because China is now producing the pollution for you

[paraclete]

What was achieved, NOTHING! Kyoto was extended but with some nations pulling out what is the point, and the greatest polluters of all were never part of it anyway

[tomder55]

Here is an interesting summary
What Did Doha Do? » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names


Meanwhile in Dubai , they did lay out the blueprint for a UN takeover of the internet.

[paraclete]

Well of course they do, the UN is one world government after all, the goal of US presidents