[speechlesstx]

Dude, as long as you keep lying about us I predict more of the same. Obama had no second term agenda, he won by demonizing Romney wagung mythical wars. If you want an un-serious country you've succeeded.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I know you love Mexicans.. You live amongst them and some of them are your best friends... But your PARTY wants to send their grandmother back to Mexico. Now, they might share a beer with you now and then, but they're voting for Obama.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Dude, when Obama was elected we had America. Now we have Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

"All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine." -Jeff Spiccoli

[talaniman]

All the people of color rejected the lying white guys that called them names. Even the white women.

Why did they believe the black guy?

You have two years to get with the program.

[speechlesstx]

Called them what names exactly?

[talaniman]

Hey if you didn't hear them, you didn't hear them. I suppose you would either have to be the insulter or the insulted to understand. Trust me, the insulted heard them loud and clear. And voting accordingly. Especially the women.

[paraclete]

You didn't hear Romney say irrelevant?

[tomder55]

Hey if you didn't hear them, you didn't hear them. I suppose you would either have to be the insulter or the insulted to understand. Trust me, the insulted heard them loud and clear. And voting accordingly. Especially the women.

So you can't cite when we called them names

[tomder55]

Vote was astronomical for Obama in some Philadelphia wards - Philly.com

Nope ;no fraud happening here .

[speechlesstx]

Hey if you didn't hear them, you didn't hear them. I suppose you would either have to be the insulter or the insulted to understand. Trust me, the insulted heard them loud and clear. And voting accordingly. Especially the women.

In other words, you got nothing.

[excon]

Hello tom:

So, when ALL the black people go out to vote, it OBVIOUSLY means they're cheating...

Look.. I know people cheat. I knew this guy who waited in line for 4 hours to cast his own vote, and then he waiting in live for ANOTHER 4 hours to cast the fraudulent vote... He was supposed to cast yet a SECOND fraudulent vote but, he got tired of waiting in line...

excon

[cdad]

Hello tom:

So, when ALL the black people go out to vote, it OBVIOUSLY means they're cheating....

Look.. I know people cheat. I knew this guy who waited in line for 4 hours to cast his own vote, and then he waiting in live for ANOTHER 4 hours to cast the fraudulent vote... He was supposed to cast yet a SECOND fraudulent vote but, he got tired of waiting in line...

excon

Here is something that is from the link posted earlier.

(House Speaker Sam Smith, musing over "staggering" turnout in some city precincts and reacting to wrong information that "90 percent of the precincts in Philadelphia County turned out over 90 percent of voters," called the ability to get such numbers "questionable."

Smith's math does not add up. Voter turnout in Philadelphia was around 60 percent, according to state election figures.)



With electronic voting we no longer can verify votes in this country. So every election is going to be a crapshoot. If you do see higher rates then historical averge then you have the right to question it. But you need the facts first.

[tomder55]

Philadephia wards often have historically high turnouts ;sometimes over 100% of registered voters.

[talaniman]

so you can't cite when we called them names

You have already called them straw arguments, and taken out of context, and even agreed with the speaker, so what's the point when we have already argued that point.

The election is over and my guy won despite the obstacles. That's the undisputed FACT! The rest is Monday morning speculation. Well its undisputed by most of us.

[speechlesstx]

Allen West is pressing on in challenging the results of his election. No wonder why...

Democrat Patrick Murphy, who leads West by some 2,000 votes, is trying to stop a full recount of controversial early ballots cast in St. Lucie County. His current victory margin is just large enough to avoid triggering an automatic recall of all precincts and all votes.

Then there is Gertrude Walker, the 32-year-veteran election supervisor of St. Lucie County, who has spent much of the last two weeks explaining why her office completely botched the count. She admitted that her office had acted in “haste” in issuing election results, and that “mistakes were made.” Among her mistakes was failing to count 40 of the 94 precincts under her jurisdiction on Election Night — and then counting the other 54 twice. Indeed. On Friday, her office announced it had “discovered” 304 additional early votes left in a box. None had been counted

Nope, there's never any election fraud to worry about. But then again it is Florida.

[TUT317]

Allen West is pressing on in challenging the results of his election. No wonder why...



Nope, there's never any election fraud to worry about. But then again it is Florida.

So we have turned up another scam have we? Why am I not surprised? No amount of voter I.D. is going to stop this type of thing. I am not saying that voter I.D. is not going to solve some aspect aspects of voter fraud, but it is not going to stop this type of scamming.

Isn't the election of, The President of the United States important enough to get it right? In the end, how do you know Romney really lost? In four years time you will probably have most states with voter I.D. This will only result in more sophisticated scamming. One thing this thread has shown me. Both sides can keep complaining, but in the end nothing will ever get done. Implement some meaningful change or its just a waste of words.


Tut

[tomder55]

It will get much worse because electronic voting can be hacked. I once thought like Ex that internet voting would be a good idea. But now I'm in favor of paper ballots and hand counts only . I also thing we should dip our index finger into indelible ink and we should be rounded by up by DHS for a mandatory vote .
But short of draconian measures ,I think verifiable voter ID is a good start.

[TUT317]

It will get much worse because electronic voting can be hacked. I once thought like Ex that internet voting would be a good idea. But now I'm in favor of paper ballots and hand counts only . I also thing we should dip our index finger into indelible ink and we should be rounded by up by DHS for a mandatory vote .
But short of draconian measures ,I think verifiable voter ID is a good start.

So it's an ideological objection rather than any real objection.In light of this I'll change my response from "...nothing will ever get done" to"...very little will ever get done".

Tut

[tomder55]

Ideological in that I think the fundamental foundations of our system is sound ?

[speechlesstx]

ideological in that I think the fundamental foundations of our system is sound ?

Absolutely right. And making an effort to reduce fraud via things as voter ID is better than doing nothing and in my view entirely reasonable.