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Nov 14, 2012, 07:58 PM
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If they held prisioners it could well have caused an attack to free them, but no mention of freed prisioners, not like a jihadist group not to crow. I think the attack was opportunist, the jihadists couldn't believe their luck but we should understand the attitude to american boots on the ground in Libya and we should understand that a lot is going on across the border in Mali. There was also action taken on local groups after the attack so it is easy to blame jihadists. You don't have a lot of friends in Africa you know
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Nov 15, 2012, 02:53 AM
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Except the group that claimed responsibility is AQ linked ;it happened on 9-11 as was the other coordinated demo in front of the Cairo Embassy(which also had nothing to do with a video) ;and the head of AQ called for revenge because our drone took out the Libyan born 2nd in command at AQ . There was no mention of freed prisoners because there weren't any . The CIA held their position . And CIA ops thwarted any kidnapping when they intervened .
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Nov 15, 2012, 05:57 AM
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Yes the CIA held their position and got the ambassador killed, very heroic
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Nov 15, 2012, 06:00 AM
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Lol if you want to blame anyone for Ambassador Stevens death ;blame the idiots who decided to outsource his security detail so the US would not have a heavy footprint.
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Nov 15, 2012, 07:59 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
the sexual angle is a side show .it does the adm a favor by diverting from the bigger stories related to Benghazi .
Yessiree. Some reported asked McCain yesterday if the Petraeus affair was a bigger national security concern than Benghazi. He responded of course...
“Well, I say with great respect, that’s one of the dumbest questions I’ve ever heard. Okay? There’s four dead Americans. Four dead Americans. Not a socialite. I’m answering your question. Do you want me to answer your question or do you wanna interrupt? Which do you want? There’s four dead Americans. The lives of other Americans were put in jeopardy,” McCain said. “It’s certainly a national security issues, but it doesn’t rise to the level of four dead Americans.”
Been making that point myself and I'm still floored by the nonchalant attitude expressed over that point.
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Nov 15, 2012, 08:32 AM
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Acting DCI Michael Morell will testify today that the reason there was no military aid during the attack is because the CIA only requested an un-armed drone to survey the scene. He will lie and say that they thought the attack was over when the CIA agents evacuated the mission and there was a lull before the CIA building came under attack . He ignores the fact that the CIA vehicles came under attack on their way back to the CIA compound. During that lull ;the enemy was able to vector in mortars that proved deadly later . He will also make the claim that the agents on the ground NEVER asked for assistance.
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Nov 15, 2012, 01:14 PM
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And did you catch Obama protectin' his wimmen?
"If Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. When they go after the U.N. ambassador apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a problem with me."
Can Sen Ayotte go after her without ruffling your chauvinistic feathers Mr. President?
And then of all things comes this jaw dropper, "I'm happy to have that discussion with them. But for them to go after the U.N. ambassador? Who had nothing to do with Benghazi?"
So why didn't any of those hardcore journalists ask him why they sent her out on 5 Sunday talk shows as the admin's lead on Benghazi if she had nothing to do with Benghazi?
Answer, they were too busy fawning over him...
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Nov 15, 2012, 03:33 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
lol if you want to blame anyone for Ambassador Stevens death ;blame the idiots who decided to outsource his security detail so the US would not have a heavy footprint.
You mean to say the US is incapable of hiring mercenaries? What no Delta force hiding in the shubbery? Some times this becomes so pathetic I have to wonder are you serious?
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Nov 15, 2012, 03:59 PM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
you mean to say the US is incapable of hiring mercenaries? what no Delta force hiding in the shubbery? some times this becomes so pathetic I have to wonder are you serious?
Dude, when did you get the impression that the Obama administration had any level of competence?
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Nov 15, 2012, 04:25 PM
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About the time they took out OBL
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Nov 15, 2012, 05:18 PM
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My information is that the President had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the situation room... that the call to wack OBL was made without his input.
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Nov 15, 2012, 06:11 PM
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Be that as it may, and he may have trusted wiser heads than his, the job got done, and the leader takes the credit as well as the kicks.
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Nov 16, 2012, 05:10 AM
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Should be interesting what Petraeus says in testimony today . The Obots are letting the press establish the narrative that Benghazi is an agency failure . If he comes clean then the news will be that this was an op run internally in the WH... using foreign funding (primarily Saudi )so the President can get around accountability to Congress (ala Iran-Contra) .
Found out that his wife was installed in a plum $187,605-per-yer job; in the newly formed Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB);a bass turd child of the Dodd-Frank law .Holly Petraeus is the assistant director for the Office of Servicemember Affairs ,a posting that did not require Senate confirmation (also funding for CFPB comes from the Federal Reserve and does not require Congressional oversight) .She was appointed by the new Sen from Mass. Elizabeth Warren when Warren was setting up the agency .
So the Obots still hold some leverage over the General.
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Nov 16, 2012, 05:37 AM
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It is reported as closed doors, so unlikely you will get the full story, what you are saying is we have Saudi-Lybia affair, but the saudi's can give aid to Libya without a by your leave
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Nov 16, 2012, 07:42 AM
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Reportedly he intends to testify that he knew it was terrorism "almost immediately", that he had his own talking points and that those that Rice went out with came from somewhere else in the administration.
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Nov 16, 2012, 08:22 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
It is reported as closed doors, so unlikely you will get the full story, what you are saying is we have Saudi-Lybia affair, but the saudi's can give aid to Lybia without a by your leave
What's your point ?Of course they could.. But the President CAN'T do it without foreign money unless he reports to Congress about the operation.
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Nov 16, 2012, 10:17 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Reportedly he intends to testify that he knew it was terrorism "almost immediately", that he had his own talking points and that those that Rice went out with came from somewhere else in the administration.
From somewhere else in the CIA, as the general has already said he had to verify his suspicions further.
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Nov 16, 2012, 10:21 AM
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The video was a ruse ;even in Cairo .
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Nov 16, 2012, 10:25 AM
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Maybe it was but the ruse worked thruout the 22 embassys in the muslim world.
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