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tomder55 · Nov 10, 2012, 05:21 AM

Do you really think it has anything to do with a former affair ? Do you really think that the Obots did not vett him and find out about the affair before he was appointed ? Do you think the adm. Would time his departure on the day the President was making his case on the approaching fiscal cliff ?

What do you think really happened here ?

I'll give you my take.

This isn't a case of beauty killing the beast . More likely he decided to leave now with the looming Nov. 15 scheduled Senate and House close door hearings on Benghazi.
This abrupt resignation frees him from any blackmail so he can come clean on Benghazi . I'm convinced that the affair was being held as leverage against Petraeus by the adm.The news is saying that he now won't have to testify . BS . He will be called to testify under oath eventually .
Previously he testified to Congress on Benghazi ;and toed the company line that it was about a YouTube video . Then he was NOT under oath. This time he will be .
The adm. Has a lot at stake in this long and short term. Of immediate concern is that they would like to replace Evita with Ambassador Rice at State . Also short term ,the cover-up is unravelling rapidly and among the casualties are potentially Tom Donilon,Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs, Biden ,and who know?? Dare I say the President himself ?

Even if they survive ,their policy for the ummah is exposed. This is not only about Benghazi, but also goes to the administration's secret policy in the Arab Spring of aiding warlords , regardless of their Jihadist connections. Had the compliant press done an ounce of their homework ,or honestly reported what is well known in open source ,we would've seen a different outcome Tuesday (maybe) .

speechlesstx · Nov 10, 2012, 06:12 AM

Hmmmm, I don't know. SIC says there are no plans for him to testify and insiders are saying it's all about the affair. Apparently the affair was with his biographer who is under FBI investigation for trying to gain access to his emails and classified info. Time will tell, either way Benghazi is going to dog this administration.

paraclete · Nov 10, 2012, 07:08 AM

The stink is so great even he could survive it this time

tomder55 · Nov 10, 2012, 10:29 AM

Steve ,
Either he will testify next week ;or he will be a rebuttal witness at some future date . Will Petraeus talk? Yes, if he is called in under oath He can't dodge it . South Carolina Congressman Trey Gowdy has made it clear that Petraeus will be called .

Generals have affairs ;Patton had them ,Ike had them . They were not exactly secrets and it would be difficult to keep them secret.

Did Obama Ben Ghazi sic the FBI on him after he publicly said "we weren't the ones who denied military support to Americans under attack in Benghazi"? Did they time the announced resignation or were they blindsided ? Once he came clean on the affair and resigned ,they have nothing to hold him to the party line.

speechlesstx · Nov 10, 2012, 11:02 AM

Oh I bet he testifies. I'm just waiting...

speechlesstx · Nov 11, 2012, 05:36 AM

Yep, looks like he was brought down by a woman.

tomder55 · Nov 11, 2012, 06:36 AM

The FBI discovered Petraus e-mails "by chance" . Call me skeptical .

Now Evita won't testify because it 'conflicts with her schedule'.

speechlesstx · Nov 11, 2012, 08:00 AM

Skepticism is good. Would say they can only dodge so long but then I remember F&F.

tomder55 · Nov 11, 2012, 06:13 PM

Check out this video of Broadwell addressing an alumni association... about the 35-36 min mark (don't waste your time with the rest ) . She gets a question about Benghazi and reveals a possible motive to the attacks that I frankly have not heard anywhere else .She says the CIA station had taken prisoners ? Was there a secret detention operation there ?
How would she know ? Was it real info that she was given by Petraeus ;or perhaps false info fed to her ?

Alumni Symposium 2012 Paula Broadwell - YouTube

Who was Broadwell ? She is a West Point grad, Army vet and national security professional... that sounds like a potential spook to me ;and of course ;sexual blackmail is a tried and true method of spycraft .

The FBI was investigating the CIA director and Obama wasn't informed until Thursday ? Is that plausible ?

paraclete · Nov 11, 2012, 06:38 PM

So Bengazhi, a base for special rendition then, and Patraeus resigning; is that a smokescreen before the whole thing became too hot. I'm a cynic and so a resignation so soon after the election, a lot of smoke there

tomder55 · Nov 12, 2012, 04:44 AM

Yeah they are trying to make us believe that the CIA Director and former 4 star General was using personal Gmail for company business ? Please !

speechlesstx · Nov 12, 2012, 07:18 AM

No, if the CIA director was being investigated you can bet your a$$ the White House knew.

paraclete · Nov 12, 2012, 01:41 PM

You are just not comfortable with the idea that the President might know something you don't, are you? Why is it you will not allow him to do his job?

speechlesstx · Nov 12, 2012, 03:04 PM

Bwa ha ha!! If he had done his job the ambassador would have had the security beefed up as he requested. Why don't you just let Congress do their job and get to the bottom of this?

paraclete · Nov 12, 2012, 03:36 PM

Reality is, is it their job? I thought their job was to approve the budget and legislate. I'm not stopping anyone from enquiring into anything, I am suggesting that executive authority rests with the President and he should be left to exercise it, what the Congress is doing is indulging in a political witchhunt, chasing smoke trails of their own making. Do you think he doesn't have the facts on Benghazi? That he knows whether someone failed in their job? Perhaps it was Petraeus, or Evita, interestingly both are moving on. Has it claimed two scalps so far?

speechlesstx · Nov 12, 2012, 03:43 PM

The reality is yes, oversight is the job of Congress.

Even that good liberal Democrat Sen. Dianne Feinstein, agrees Congress should have been involved.

The top Senate Democrat on intelligence issues said Sunday she would investigate the FBI's handling of the inquiry, and why the matter wasn't shared earlier with Congress.

"It was like a lightning bolt," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D. Calif.) on "Fox News Sunday." "This is something that could have had an effect on national security. I think we should have been told."

You do get that even though Obama does do his job quite often as the imperial president that he is not king. He's still subject to oversight himself.

paraclete · Nov 12, 2012, 03:48 PM

Executive authority is not well understood. Congress legislates, the Executive implements. Oversight is checking the programs are implemented not chasing after every little detail. What Congress is about is micro managing

speechlesstx · Nov 12, 2012, 03:55 PM

I understand executive authority just fine, and when the sh*t hits the fan it's Congress' job to investigate. Period.

paraclete · Nov 12, 2012, 04:00 PM

How many fans do you have over there it seems you spend all your time investigating shlt

tomder55 · Nov 12, 2012, 04:27 PM

The President cannot have a secret foreign policy unilaterally implemented without oversight. Many members of the Reagan Adm ended up in jail because the policy known as Iran/Contra was executed in secret.

I can't believe you think it would be perfectly acceptable for an imperial President . As I understand it executive authority in your system rests in the crown of England , Would you accept a decision by the monarch that was not discussed with the PM and the Parliament ? No... I didn't think so.