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    Jessyfay Posts: 164, Reputation: 4
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    Mar 13, 2007, 07:32 PM
    My daschund is a retard!
    I had no idea what I got myself into, I love dogs and have had only great experiences with my dogs in my past, so when I decided to buy a mini dash. From a pet store ( which I regret) the dog is turning out to be a retard! An imbred. It is over a year old and still isn't house train, I know I followed all the housetraing help, I even read the monks of new skeet books and I've tried command words, praising, rewards, crating, spanking, changed my tone with my voice,. everything, THE dog still poos and pees in my house! I have peer dog lovers who say the daschund is the worst dog to house break, because there so imbred and stubborn, It's like my dog forgets. I tell him to go lie down in his bed and stay, he'll listen for 10 minutes and than get up and start running around, I can't take it! Does anybody know how to house train an untrainable dog? Because I'm this close of buying an electric collar. OH, and he always runs out of the yard. Every time I let him out in the backyard he finds a way out and runs all through the neighbors yards. Help how can I teach him to stay in the yard. IF your thinking of getting a mini dash. Stop they are the worst dogs to train!
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    Mar 13, 2007, 07:52 PM
    It will take a lot of work to correct all your dog's problems. Yes, buying from the pet store was a mistake. Next, I doubt you started as explained at https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/i...tml#post251809 The crate is essential. You need to carefully introduce it now, less the dog fouls it because of stress or deliberately.

    I doubt there is much you can with the dog that wants to run, except whatever it takes to make the yard secure. Some dogs will run every chance they get and others won't.
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    Mar 14, 2007, 05:22 PM
    The crate, only works when it is just small enouph for him to lie down comfy in. and that doesn't effect the reason that he doesn't listen, are dogs known for purposely pooing and peeing on your couches because they are angry or upset with you?
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    Mar 14, 2007, 06:09 PM
    There are things dogs do that could be interpreted as spite or revenge, but fear or stress may be a better explanation. You may be scaring the ____ out of him. I think you need to calm down and do some more reading. Try looking at some of the books on the list at https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/i...tml#post251804

    I think you are also falling into the common trap of judging a breed of dog by a few examples. Not all dogs are typical of their breed. Many lines are quite different. Even puppies out of the same litter are often quite different from each other. Mini Dachshunds may have a bad reputation because so many are poorly bred and many of the people buying them don't find a good source information about them. A few years ago I was trying to understand why I see so many questions from people having trouble housebreaking all sorts of breeds. I did an internet search. Site after site had weak advice on housebreaking leaving out such essentials as using a crate or praising the dog. I was reported to the American Italian Greyhound society for bad mouthing their site here. I thought it was just one more poor site.
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    Mar 15, 2007, 10:20 AM
    I have a dachshund and I LOVE him. He is completely potty trained and the only issue we have is his need to chew everything in site. We have a crate for him. He may not like it but he uses it and never pees or poops in it. I can tell you that a dachshund usually does what they want unless well trained. I can't imagine my life without my little guy in it. Have patience and really work with yours and you will probably see an improvement. I can tell you I have found that gentle commands work better than harsh ones with my pup. Good luck.
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    Mar 15, 2007, 08:42 PM
    He pooped in my truck today. I think he get's separation anxiety because I just stepped out to grab a drink from the corner store and when I got back he pooped in my truck! He was outside in the backyard for an hour before that. WHY did he decide to poop in my truck while I was gone for not even 10 minutes
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    Mar 15, 2007, 08:49 PM
    I really think it is stress. The one Lab I had was afraid of everything. Every time I tried to get her near a train, she pooped.
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    Mar 16, 2007, 12:57 PM
    He's either really really stressed or because I got him from a pet store and I have no background whatsoever, he could be imbreded or lack of oxygen when he was a pup. Because he has a very short attention span, and it's like he doesn't remember what happaned a hour ago. Today he peed all over me. I came home from the store, I was gone for 45 minutes and he went outside before I left. When I came back I let him out of his crate and he jumps in my lap and pees all over me. Why did he do this?
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    Mar 16, 2007, 12:58 PM
    My 5 year old has the best advice so far,
    I asked her what we should do about the dog who doesn't want to stop peeing in the house she said,

    " Give him love, lot's of love and when he pees in the house, say NO and put him outside and than give him more love"
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    Mar 16, 2007, 01:20 PM
    It could be submissive wetting. Standing tall, looking him in the eye, and talking gruffly will make it worse. Many dogs eventually outgrow it, but you can reduce it by building the dog's confidence up. Start with obedience training. The key to most behavior problems is approaching things using the dog's natural instincts. Dogs see all the people and dogs in the household as a pack with each having their own rank in the pack and a top dog. Life is much easier if the 2 legged pack members outrank the 4 legged ones. You can learn to play the role of top dog by reading some books or going to a good obedience class. A good obedience class or book is about you being top dog, not about rewarding standard commands with a treat. Start at Raising Your Dog with the Monks of New Skete As you praise the dog for following your commands, it will build its confidence.

    Play tug of war with the dog and lose. However at the end of the game, take the rope or toy and put it up, less the dog becomes confused about who is top dog.
    Ropes from the pets' store quickly turn to hazardous shreds. Ones I made
    Lasted much better. Go to a hardware or home center that sells rope by the
    Foot. Buy 2' of 3/4" poly rope. Melt the ends, and tie knots in it. Get
    Them as tight as possible, put it in a vise and pound it with a hammer. Watch
    Carefully, and be ready to discard when it comes apart.
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    Mar 16, 2007, 04:34 PM
    I've read raising a puppy from new skete and how to be your dog's best friend from new skete, both books I apply to my dog. My dog has a disibility, I have concluded that I have a problomatic dog. It wasn't submissive wetting it was a full puddle.
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    Mar 16, 2007, 07:37 PM
    I came home from ice skating and let him out of the crate put him the backyard and told him "GO PEE" that's his potty word, and he went PEE ! I can't believe it worked! And I gave him Lot's and Lot's of praise, let's hope it stays because every time I think he's getting better I find a puddle or a log somewhere
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    Mar 16, 2007, 08:07 PM
    Not even an hour and he was behind me in the office sleeping on the futon, after he went outside and took a HUGE pee , I turn around and find another Huge puddle in my new futon, I'm freaking out, now why did he just pee again after going outside and having a huge pee. I stuck his nose in it and put him outside. GRRRRRRRR!! I'm telling you, my daschund is a retard.
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    Mar 16, 2007, 08:11 PM
    Very good. One success does not mean he is house trained now, but you should have more success and fewer accidents. One day you will realize how long it has been since the last one.
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    Mar 17, 2007, 11:13 AM
    My dog cannot retain memory for that, he is always peeing and pooing in the house. He's an adult dog, he should be housebroken by now. Every dog owner I meet asks me what kind of dog I have and when I tell them it's a mini daschund they always go. "good grief" those dogs are horrible to train.
    My dog has no retainable memory. He get's punished for peeing in the house and than he get's praise for peeing outside and he doesn't understand "ok, if I pee here on the bed will I get punished, oh yeah I remember, i better go outside" He just pees wherever.
    DON'T EVER GET A MINI DASCHUND< THEY ARE HORRID LITTLE DOGS!
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    Mar 20, 2007, 09:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessyfay
    I had no idea what i got myself into, I love dogs and have had only great experiences with my dogs in my past, so when i decided to buy a mini dash. from a pet store ( which I regret) the dog is turning out to be a retard! an imbred. It is over a year old and still isn't house train, I know I followed all the housetraing help, I even read the monks of new skeet books and I've tried command words, praising, rewards, crating, spanking, changed my tone with my voice,... everything, THE dog still poos and pees in my house! I have peer dog lovers who say the daschund is the worst dog to house break, because there so imbred and stubborn, It's like my dog forgets. I tell him to go lie down in his bed and stay, he'll listen for 10 mins and than get up and start running around, I can't take it! does anybody know how to house train an untrainable dog? because I'm this close of buying an electric collar. OH, and he always runs out of the yard. Every time i let him out in the backyard he finds a way out and runs all through the neighbors yards. Help how can I teach him to stay in the yard. IF your thinking of getting a mini dash. Stop they are the worst dogs to train!
    I have two mini doxies - one I got from rescue. They are both wonderful and loving and were not hard to train at all. I crated them from the beginning and let them out every few hours. When they went outside, I praised them. I have to admit, one does have a stubborn streak in some things, but all in all they are the best. My vet told me from the very first day I got my dogs that if I loved them I would crate train them and NEVER give them table food. It worked!
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    Mar 20, 2007, 10:07 AM
    I have a mini doxie that is the love of my life. And I have a doxie that I rescued from a family that did not have the time to devote to him. They are 2 completely different dogs, but both are loving and special in their own way.

    Tuscany was not easy to housebreak, but once we got on a schedule he got the idea quickly and is completely housebroken now at 7 months. Ollie on the other hand came to us as a 2 year old not housebroken. It has taken a long time to get him to where he will now go to the door when he has to go out, (but he does have an occational accident). But, it took a lot of time on our part. We started watching for Pee signs (things he did that made us know he that he had to go), and we would put him out before he had a chance to pee on the rug (sometimes 2 times in 15 or 20 minutes). He would then be praised, given a treat, and brought back inside. It seems to have worked.

    I have to say that your comment about mini's being horrid little dogs is completely wrong. They are actually fun, loving dogs that are loyal to their people. I have had other dogs in my past, and I have to say, I have had some of my best times with my mini. I would not trade my minis for any other dog in the world. AND I used to be a loyal Lab only household.
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    Mar 20, 2007, 10:35 AM
    I am disappointed that even people, that claim to be experienced, stereotype breeds based on the few they know. I have no doubt that there are mini Dachshunds that will never be anything except horrid little dogs. Any dog will do much better with good early socialization and training. A little care in choosing nice parents makes a big difference too.

    Even if you made an unfortunate choice in a puppy, it is still entitled to love and training.
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    Mar 21, 2007, 07:41 AM
    I would first like to say that I apologize in advance if my post offends you, but... it is obvious that you are entirely too frustrated to give this dog what he needs. You seem aggravated and angry to me. If it is getting under your skin that much and you are reduced to calling him "retarded" and constantly belittling him have you ever considered giving him to someone that has a lot of time to spend with him? I feel that your frustration is making him even more nervous that his breed usually is. Dogs are very sensitive and they sense what their owners are feeling. My advice is you may need to calm down a bit, count to 10, (or whatever works) BEFORE scolding him or give him to someone that doesn't work and has time to work with him. JMHO
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    Mar 21, 2007, 02:49 PM
    JesseyFay what state do you live in? Maybe someone on here would be willing to take your dog and give it a home. If it is angering you this much you should give it to someone who has the patience for it.

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