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  • Romney

    10 50.00%
  • Obama

    10 50.00%
  • Romney is in denial

    5 25.00%
  • Obama is a communist

    3 15.00%
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    #361

    Oct 22, 2012, 08:35 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    Uhhhh, WHICH house of congress? It DOES make a difference.

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    #362

    Oct 22, 2012, 08:37 AM
    The new Congress meets in joint session on January 6, 2013, to count the electoral votes (this count happens whether the election is close or not). If neither candidate has reached 270 Electoral Votes, then the House and Senate take over and elect the President and Vice-President, respectively.

    It is the new Congress, inaugurated the first week of January, 2013, that will have the responsibility of breaking any ties.

    What Happens if there is a Tie in the Electoral College?
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    #363

    Oct 22, 2012, 08:41 AM
    Hello WG:

    Wow. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. What if the House and the Senate don't agree, as I'm sure they won't?

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    #364

    Oct 22, 2012, 08:42 AM
    The House picks the President ,the Senate the VP according to the 12th Amendment .
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    #365

    Oct 22, 2012, 08:45 AM
    Maybe there's a tie. There could be a heavily contested congressional fight that would last weeks. There could be a fiscal cliff catastrophe. There could be an astroturf uprising against the electoral college.

    But there might not be a President.

    Read more: The Possible Electoral College Nightmare Scenario Is Even Worse Than We Thought - Business Insider
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    #366

    Oct 22, 2012, 08:54 AM
    Hello again,

    Hmmm... That sounds scary.

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    #367

    Oct 22, 2012, 09:47 AM
    Scary as opposed to having SCOTUS decide it ? Nah,we've had worse and survived . JQ Adams was selected by the House after a 4 candidate race in 1824 (word of warning to those who think 3rd party politics is a good idea) . Andrew Jackson won a plurality but not the majority .Jackson assumed that he's be President . But it was a 4 way race ,and under the 12th amendment provisions ,only 3 candidates could be considered by the House. Henry Clay was the man left out. But he was Speaker of the House ;so that made him a king maker.

    Clay hated Jackson... nuff said... JQ Adams won out even though Jackson had the plurality . Coincidently Adams chose Clay as Sec State (at the time considered to be a key position for anyone who had Presidential ambitions) . Jackson spent the next 4 years calling it a 'corrupt bargain' ,and that helped Jackson win the Presidency 4 years later.
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    #368

    Oct 22, 2012, 09:45 PM
    You know what's scary, Tom, is Romney thinks Russia is america's greatest enemy.
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    #369

    Oct 23, 2012, 04:21 AM
    You ,like the President ,do not understand the difference between"enemy " and "geopolitical foe " .I don't happen to agree with Romney on that either ; our greatest geopolitical foe is China... our biggest "enemy" is jihadistan .
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    #370

    Oct 23, 2012, 04:36 AM
    As I said before Tom there is a lot you don't like why are you going to vote for him?

    Geo-political foe, that's board room speak for I'm smarter than you and I don't have a clue

    I would say your biggest enemy is your capitalist enterpreneurs who think investment in China makes more sense than investment in america
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    #371

    Oct 23, 2012, 04:42 AM
    Yeah blame America or Americans 1st . One thing you won't see from Romney is a bowing apology tour .That makes him heads and tails above POTUS O'BOGUS .
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    #372

    Oct 23, 2012, 04:52 AM
    Hello tom:

    If by that, you mean that Romney will DENY American complicity in the problems of the Mid East, then peace is a LONG way off..

    SOLVING the problems over there is better than LOOKING macho. But, of course, we know from the 47% tape, that Romney has NO plans to FIX anything over there... He believes the problems are BIGGER than he is, and I agree.

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    #373

    Oct 23, 2012, 05:13 AM
    We've already seen by performance that the President is in over his head there... unless you think recruiting AQ to fight in Syria while claiming they are on the run is a good plan. Unless you think neglecting to attend national security briefings is something the Commander in Chief should be doing. Unless you think evading meetings with key allies is a good idea.

    What we've learned about Obama is that he loves being President ;but he really doesn't love doing the job of President . Even Chris Matthews recognizes this :

    Thrill Is Gone? Matthews Turns On Obama; 'I Hear Stories That You Would Not Believe' - YouTube!
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    #374

    Oct 23, 2012, 05:54 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    If Obama is in over his head, then Romney is too.. He's the presidents biggest foreign policy fan... You couldn't fit a razor blade between the TWO policies... Oh yeah, Romney is going to talk tough, but that AIN'T policy.

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    #375

    Oct 23, 2012, 05:57 AM
    His pivot to the center, after being far right was a sloppy move at best.
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    #376

    Oct 23, 2012, 06:35 AM
    He probably doesn't like being president because he doesn't like people. That's kind of scary if you ask me.

    Clinton, being Clinton, had plenty of advice in mind and was desperate to impart it. But for the first two years of Obama’s term, the phone calls Clinton kept expecting rarely came. “People say the reason Obama wouldn’t call Clinton is because he doesn’t like him,” observes Tanden. “The truth is, Obama doesn’t call anyone, and he’s not close to almost anyone. It’s stunning that he’s in politics, because he really doesn’t like people. My analogy is that it’s like becoming Bill Gates without liking computers.”
    But he does like golf and the sound of his own voice, that should be enough reason to vote him in again.
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    #377

    Oct 23, 2012, 06:38 AM
    The President lied through his teeth regarding Iraq. He (specifically Biden and Panetta ) bungled the 'status of forces 'negotiations with the Iraqi gvt and that is the ONLY reason there is a complete US withdrawal underway.
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    #378

    Oct 23, 2012, 06:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    He probably doesn't like being president because he doesn't like people. That's kind of scary if you ask me.



    But he does like golf and the sound of his own voice, that should be enough reason to vote him in again.
    What is amazing is that this critique comes from his side ;not his political opposition. Chris Matthews went from the thrill up his leg to wondering why or if the President even wants the job .
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    #379

    Oct 23, 2012, 06:50 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    Bush lost Iraq a few months after we invaded... Since that opportunity for victory vanished, there's been JILLIONS of mistakes, MOST of which were perpetrated by the Bush neo-cons who are NOW running the Romney campaign. Even IF I accept that Obama blew the agreement you're talking about, Iraq was LOST long ago. If I were you, I wouldn't be looking for ANYBODY to blame for Iraq but yourself.

    I've said on these pages MANY, MANY times, you can't win a war that you've already LOST.

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    #380

    Oct 23, 2012, 06:59 AM
    Bush left Iraq a won war even though there were mistakes made . Obama lost the post-war .Now the nation is the transportation highway for Iran to funnel supplies to the Assad regime.

    By the way ;can't wait to see all the ads in swing State Virginia ;where Norfolk hosts the biggest Naval base,and the state heavily involved in the ship building industry, that the cuts in the Navy budget aren't significant.

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