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    #721

    Oct 11, 2012, 11:06 AM
    Tal, like I said there will be no Voter ID law that is NOT dragged to court because there is NOTHING that would satisfy the left.
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    #722

    Oct 11, 2012, 11:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Tal, like I said there will be no Voter ID law that is NOT dragged to court because there is NOTHING that would satisfy the left.
    A year or two before an election would not be fought.
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    #723

    Oct 11, 2012, 11:15 AM
    Speech, the court made the final decision, not the left, we only made the case. Presented the facts, and you guys presented YOUR FACTS, didn't they?

    That's the court process, based on FACTS of the case.
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    #724

    Oct 11, 2012, 11:43 AM
    I already showed SC's law has been in the works for almost 4 years, there is no time frame that would prevent a court challenge.
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    #725

    Oct 11, 2012, 12:08 PM
    If they can't get it straight in 4 years they probably are doing something really wrong, and never will get it RIGHT (enough) for the courts!!
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    #726

    Oct 11, 2012, 01:43 PM
    Nah ;that isn't it. You guys wouldn't have made nearly the stink if it was a half year before the 2013 elections . Your issues are only with this election.
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    #727

    Oct 11, 2012, 10:18 PM
    Wrong, we make a stink about EVERYTHING you guys do that stinks, be it an election or a law!

    Hey you guys do the same thing don't you? Sure you do.
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    #728

    Oct 12, 2012, 07:40 AM
    No, I'm happy we got bin Laden, just not thrilled with Team O spiking the ball.
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    #729

    Oct 16, 2012, 11:22 AM
    Hello again,

    The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a last-gasp appeal by Ohio Republicans and approved early voting for Ohio residents on the weekend before Election Day. I believe I suggested they rule LONG before voting day, and they did. In fact, I think he only filed his brief yesterday.

    Ohio's Secretary of State John Husted had refused to enforce last week's appellate court decision, in which a three-judge panel came down on the side of the Obama campaign and blocked a law that would have limited early voting.

    Husted remained adamant that Ohioans should not be allowed to vote on that weekend, which was a prime voting period for minorities in the 2008 election.

    The Supreme Court's order was one line long: "The application for stay presented to Justice [Elena] Kagan and by her referred to the Court is denied."

    Poor Republicans..

    excon
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    #730

    Oct 16, 2012, 11:42 AM
    Get those campaign buses rolling... vote early ,vote often !
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    #731

    Oct 16, 2012, 10:25 PM
    Yes Tom vote as often as you can
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    #732

    Oct 20, 2012, 08:29 AM
    Hello again:

    Ohio's Republican Secretary of State had THREE shots at finding a judge who LIKES his efforts at voter suppression.. He didn't find ANY, even on the Supreme Court.

    Nonetheless, even though he's been ORDERED to keep early voting as it is, he's decided to limit the hours the polls will stay open anyway. Long lines are expected...

    Can you tell me, in simple English, what legitimate state interest there is in doing that?

    excon
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    #733

    Oct 20, 2012, 11:56 AM
    Or the purpose of putting up billboards that still say you need ID to vote?

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...-registrations

    http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/...d-on-voter-id/

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/20...iscussion=true

    http://spaninquis.wordpress.com/2012...publican-scam/

    So much for integrity.
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    #734

    Oct 23, 2012, 06:38 AM
    Hello again, voter suppression DENIERS:

    Hello again:

    Ohio's Republican Secretary of State had THREE shots at finding a judge who LIKES his efforts at voter suppression.. He didn't find ANY, even on the Supreme Court.

    Nonetheless, even though he's been ORDERED to keep early voting as it is, he's decided to limit the hours the polls will stay open anyway. Long lines are expected...

    Can you tell me, in simple English, what legitimate state interest there is in doing that?

    Excon
    Anybody?? Hellooooo..

    Excon
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    #735

    Oct 23, 2012, 06:51 AM
    Dude, we've been over the reasons, repeating them won't sway you. Meanwhile...

    Fla. Republicans receiving fake ineligibility letters aimed at suppressing their vote

    The Florida Department of State’s Division of Elections is investigating a number of fraudulent letters sent to voters in the state questioning their citizenship and voter eligibility, in a possible attempt to keep them home on Election Day.

    “The Florida Department of State unequivocally opposes all attempts at voter fraud or intimidation and will pursue every avenue to ensure free, fair and open elections for all eligible voters,” Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner said in a statement. “Voter fraud and intimidation can deny voters their voice in government and will not be tolerated.”

    The statement alerted the public of the fraudulent letters, which claim to be from Florida election officials and imply that the recipient might be ineligible to vote.

    Charles Callaghan, a Republican from Ponte Vedra, received one of the fraudulent letters Saturday.

    “Basically, when I read the letter, I got the impression that I was not going to be able to vote, because my citizenship was being questioned,” Callaghan told The Daily Caller. “I wasn’t quite sure why it would be, because I was born in the United States, and I’ve always been a United States citizen, and nothing has changed in my life … that would cause my citizenship to be called into question.”

    Callaghan noticed that his letter lacked a return address and included faulty contact information and a Seattle, Washington postmark.

    “I said to my wife, somebody is just trying to keep me from voting,” Callaghan said. “To put that doubt in my mind that I can’t vote and then not give me a way that I could dispute it — because they didn’t give me a phone number or address — they are thinking I am going to get frustrated and just not go vote. ”
    And this from the Pew Research Center:

    • Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.


    • More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.


    • Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.


    I still object to the possibility my legitimate vote will be canceled out by some fraudster. But then there is no voter fraud, right?
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    #736

    Oct 23, 2012, 07:03 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Then you DO believe voter suppression efforts are underway. You just believe it's the OTHER guys... Bwa, ha ha.. Do you want me to find the voter information pamphlet that gives the CORRECT date to vote in English, but the WRONG one in Spanish? Now, it COULD be typo... But, I'm not going to look because that's exactly what you'll claim..

    As long as we leave the elections to partisans, this stuff is going to happen. I think TUT called for nationalization of the elections.. That may NOT be a bad idea.

    excon
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    #737

    Oct 23, 2012, 07:24 AM
    I've made the point that dirty tricks happen, and that both parties participate in them. All the more reason for a state recognized photo id .
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    #738

    Oct 23, 2012, 07:25 AM
    I don't believe nationalization is a constitutional option. Cooperation between the states would be good, I mean don't we have enough computing power to share voter rolls and flag duplicates? And yes, I've always acknowledged it on both sides so you can drop that straw man but I believe I've asked that of you before. Voter ID protects my vote AND your vote and like the majority of Americans believe it is a reasonable safeguard, in spite of the 1 percent who may have to finally prove who they are.
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    #739

    Oct 23, 2012, 01:20 PM
    Photo ID doesn't prevent registration fraud, absentee fraud, or any other dirty trick in the book. So much for election integrity.
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    #740

    Oct 23, 2012, 01:46 PM
    How would you know Tal, you refuse to give it a chance.

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