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speechlesstx · Sep 26, 2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Even Rush is frustrated. Fox News too.

Meaning what exactly? I have heard nothing of the sort other than I know a number of Fox personalities are fed up with the rest of the media's refusal to do their job and with Media Matters coordinating with the administration and getting away with it.

talaniman · Sep 26, 2012, 11:49 AM

What's so surprising to find out the rest of the world is against you righties? We think you are crazy, and out of touch. Except for you Speech, that lead in page to our football league is the bomb, love it!

speechlesstx · Sep 26, 2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Whats so surprising to find out the rest of the world is against you righties? We think you are crazy, and out of touch. Except for you Speech, that lead in page to our football league is the bomb, love it!

I don't see it that way at all, just because NK and Clete love to hammer us is no indication of how the rest of the world feels. But, I may be a little crazy and definitely not out of touch, but unlike Obama I can't take credit where I don't deserve it, that's just ESPN news. The trophies, now those are my work.

NeedKarma · Sep 26, 2012, 12:03 PM

In the end anything that is said or that goes on here doesn't make a difference in anyone's life.

smoothy · Sep 26, 2012, 01:09 PM

Listening to lefties argue is like watching 12 year old boys arguing about women about women...

Because most of you get everything you know from highly biased news sourcees... and if any of you spent nearly 30 years in and around parts of the government I have... you would see how much the media dupes everyone.

THey don't report the news... the report what they want you to think the news is. Which many times is nothing alike.

Wondergirl · Sep 26, 2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Listening to lefties argue is like watching 12 year old boys arguing about women about women.....

Because most of you get everything you know from highly biased news sourcees....and if any of you spent nearly 30 years in and around parts of the government I have...you would see how much the media dupes everyone.

THey don't report the news....the report what they want you to think the news is. Which many times is nothing alike.

I've been watching and listening to the campaigners.

smoothy · Sep 26, 2012, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I've been watching and listening to the campaigners.

Same difference actually. I don't believe anything I see on Infomercials either for that matter... or anything a telemarketer tries to sell me.

Of course I don't see EVERYTHING that makes the news unfiltered... but when over 90% of the whole lot of stuff I actually have seen over the years that was distorted beyond recognition many times... you can rightfully assume the rest isn't any different. That's statistics 101. And quite Honestly its even worse in other countries. Like the UK and Italy that I do have a lot of experience with. Being I lived in Italy 6 uninterrupted years... and spent out of every 12 months over the next 20 years there, and Had a SKY satellite dish back in the late 80's and early 90's back when they were still a Ku band service before they had digital satellite TV. Still have access to it from time to time, not to mention the BBC propaganda that's almost as bad as NPR is here.

I've seen enough over the years to no longer have a naïve view of anything a politician or a Journalist of any type has any part of. In fact I lost that back in the mid 80's.

You want an eye opening experience... talk to a secret service guy about what THEY think about the people they have to protect... or did previously. Or anyone that's had to work with them away from the spotlight and cameras... you would be shocked...

Wondergirl · Sep 26, 2012, 02:37 PM

So how am I supposed to make an intelligent decision on whom to vote for?

speechlesstx · Sep 26, 2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

THey don't report the news....the report what they want you to think the news is. Which many times is nothing alike.

And some are just plain idiots without a clue so eager to demonize Republicans they don't even bother to verify satire such as those who took some Politico satire seriously and ran with it, and those who seriously thought Romney didn't know you couldn't open the windows at 35,000 feet.

Sorry, But Mitt Romney's Nickname Is Not “The Stench”

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

You can't make this stuff up. Too bad they didn't find it equally funny enough to mock the technology president for not knowing how to make a call on an iPhone, which is at least a true story.

NeedKarma · Sep 26, 2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Same difference actually. I don't believe anything I see on Infomercials either for that matter...or anything a telemarketer tries to sell me.

How did you equate the words directly out of Obama's and Romney's mouths to telemarketing and infomercials?

NeedKarma · Sep 26, 2012, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You can't make this stuff up. Too bad they didn't find it equally funny enough to mock the technology president for not knowing how to make a call on an iPhone, which is at least a true story.

I explained that one to you, I guess it didn't take.

speechlesstx · Sep 26, 2012, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I explained that one to you, I guess it didn't take.

Coming from the guy that bought the airplane window story...

paraclete · Sep 26, 2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I don't see it that way at all, just because NK and Clete love to hammer us is no indication of how the rest of the world feels. But, I may be a little crazy and definitely not out of touch, but unlike Obama I can't take credit where I don't deserve it, that's just ESPN news. The trophies, now those are my work.

Speech if you get hammered it is because your ideas are out of touch with the real world. You want to know how the rest of the world feels, well this week you have a lot of world leaders who will be fawning over you while picking your pocket. Generally speaking the ordinary people of the world aren't in favour of you, they see you for what your leaders project you to be. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy, whose corporations are not good corporate citizens but exploiters, who are a law unto themselves. They see a nation that preaches to others about rights, but fails to deal with poverty within its own borders

smoothy · Sep 26, 2012, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

speech if you get hammered it is because your ideas are out of touch with the real world. You want to know how the rest of the world feels, well this week you have a lot of world leaders who will be fawning over you while picking your pocket. Generally speaking the ordinary people of the world arn't in favour of you, they see you for what your leaders project you to be. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy, whose corporations are not good corporate citizens but exploiters, who are a law unto themselves. they see a nation that preaches to others about rights, but fails to deal with poverty within its own borders

Problem is this is a US election... what the rest of the world thinks thanks to their being deceived by their so-called journalists has no bearing... because thankfully THEY don't have a vote... any more than we do in their elections.

paraclete · Sep 26, 2012, 09:11 PM

Or in your own it seems smoothy. You get the leadership you deserve, that seems to be a universal outcome, not the leadership you need.

Yes it is a US election but since you project your power all over the world the rest of us have a vested interest in the outcome, therefore we have an opinion, however uninformed, and it appears, the right to express it. It may be a surprise to you that we are well informed, even at a distance, communications mean that we might even know before your journalists are awake enough to report. Our press is not constrained by vested interests in the US, nor do we need to swallow White House briefings

speechlesstx · Sep 27, 2012, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

speech if you get hammered it is because your ideas are out of touch with the real world. You want to know how the rest of the world feels, well this week you have a lot of world leaders who will be fawning over you while picking your pocket. Generally speaking the ordinary people of the world arn't in favour of you, they see you for what your leaders project you to be. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy, whose corporations are not good corporate citizens but exploiters, who are a law unto themselves. they see a nation that preaches to others about rights, but fails to deal with poverty within its own borders

That last line is a clear indication that you sir, are the one out of touch. You've bought into a myth.

tomder55 · Sep 27, 2012, 04:51 AM

. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy

Can't wait until you depend on the Chinese blue water navy to guarantee free passage of the seas .

paraclete · Sep 27, 2012, 05:44 AM

Totally out of touch with reality Tom, you really believe in the myth. Speech believes it too. You somehow believe you have a patient on democracy and fairness, that you can order the world to your vision of crassness. You don't like it when the rest of us say we don't like your vision. Yes, China might eventually become the successor of the USSR but there is a fatal flaw in your argument, you are more indebted and dependent upon them than we are. If anyone will be sailing in a Chinese lake it is you and your xenophobia is absorbing you. We don't fear the Chinese Tom, they are not the only people in our sphere and they have done nothing to threaten us. You have ignored them for decades and suddenly you have woken and they are there. The result is panic and it isn't pretty

tomder55 · Sep 27, 2012, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Totally out of touch with reality Tom, you really believe in the myth. speech believes it too. You somehow believe you have a patient on democracy and fairness, that you can order the world to your vision of crassness. You don't like it when the rest of us say we don't like your vision. Yes, China might eventually become the successor of the USSR but there is a fatal flaw in your argument, you are more indebted and dependent upon them than we are. If anyone will be sailing in a Chinese lake it is you and your xenophobia is absorbing you. We don't fear the Chinese Tom, they are not the only people in our sphere and they have done nothing to threaten us. You have ignored them for decades and suddenly you have woken and they are there. The result is panic and it isn't pretty

Maybe you should look at the critical sea lanes they are turning into a Chinese lake then. The US fleet guarantees passage through the worlds seas . You think they will ? You can bleat all you want about us but the truth is you need us .

speechlesstx · Sep 27, 2012, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Totally out of touch with reality Tom, you really believe in the myth. speech believes it too. You somehow believe you have a patient on democracy and fairness, that you can order the world to your vision of crassness. You don't like it when the rest of us say we don't like your vision. Yes, China might eventually become the successor of the USSR but there is a fatal flaw in your argument, you are more indebted and dependent upon them than we are. If anyone will be sailing in a Chinese lake it is you and your xenophobia is absorbing you. We don't fear the Chinese Tom, they are not the only people in our sphere and they have done nothing to threaten us. You have ignored them for decades and suddenly you have woken and they are there. The result is panic and it isn't pretty

You don't know squat about what I believe and quite frankly I find your self-righteous assumptions quite annoying. Might be a good idea for you to evaluate yourself instead of projecting your resentment on others.