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    #61

    Sep 26, 2012, 09:48 AM
    Look, if he met with one leader, he would have to meet with 10," and "in this election year, campaigning trumped meetings with world leaders.
    Heard KT McFarland on the radio this morning .
    She says the reason that he won't meet with any foreign leader is that would give Romney the opportunity to also meet with foreign leaders .Obama wouldn't take the risk of having Romney looking "presidential " by meeting with foreign leaders .

    Besides ;he'd have to take off his golf shoes.
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    #62

    Sep 26, 2012, 09:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Obama wouldn't take the risk of having Romney looking "presidential " by meeting with foreign leaders.
    Bwahahahahahaha. It hasn't happened so far.
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    #63

    Sep 26, 2012, 09:55 AM
    We haven't had anyone Presidential in the White House since Bush moved out. We have Chicago thugs squatting in it now.
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    Sep 26, 2012, 10:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Bwahahahahahaha. It hasn't happened so far.
    Then why the fear ? He should've welcomed the opportunity to see Romney stumble .

    I found her op ed on the subject :

    And something could go very wrong if Obama met with world leaders, especially if he meets with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Romney has known Netanyahu for years, since they worked together as young men right out of graduate school. They've been friends for decades, and when Romney recently visited Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu and his wife had Mr. and Mrs. Romney to their house for a private dinner and reunion. People say they know each other so well they finish each other's sentences. The Romney-Netanyahu photo would be two old pals, and would play well with all those Jewish swing voters in Florida.

    Contrast that to the last time Netanyahu and Obama met in the Oval Office. Netanyahu lectured Obama and their body language said it all -- they could hardly bare to look at each other. Another photo of those two scowling and wagging fingers will definitely NOT play well with those swing voters in the swing state of Florida.

    Yes, yes, there are major issues on the international stage right now. But from the Obama campaign's perspective, none of them trump the getting their man reelected. They figure there will be plenty of time to deal with the world's leaders in a second term.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...#ixzz27b4BEKSt
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    #65

    Sep 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
    Ah, interpretation of body language, etc. by...

    Romney's personal connection with Bibi has nothing to do with looking presidential.
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    #66

    Sep 26, 2012, 10:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    THe should've welcomed the opportunity to see Romney stumble .
    You mean like his Olympic Europe tour?
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    #67

    Sep 26, 2012, 10:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Ah, interpretation of body language, etc. by ....
    At least one expert has interpreted it that way before. It's not that hard to see.
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    #68

    Sep 26, 2012, 10:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    At least one expert has interpreted it that way before. It's not that hard to see.
    You see what you want to see.
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    #69

    Sep 26, 2012, 10:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You see what you want to see.
    Said the pot to the kettle.

    I've long wanted to see Jessica Biel naked in my bedroom but I haven't seen that yet. And my wife would certainly object.
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    Sep 26, 2012, 10:58 AM
    It isn't an easy thing for Mitt to be the Great White Hope for the right wing. Or the 1%.
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    Sep 26, 2012, 11:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You see what you want to see.
    How about actions and words then ? He made Netanyahu sit in a conference room for over an hour while he ate dinner. He insulted Bibi when he thought he was off mike while meeting with Sarkosy .

    He is the one who looks oafish and awkward when meeting with foreign leaders. He is the one who made the Dali Lama come into the White House through the service entrance. He is the one who bows to leaders from one end of the world to the other .
    He was way over his head from the git-go . Here is the NY Slimes describing the Obama style .

    The tensions between Mr. Obama and the Gulf states, both American and Arab diplomats say, derive from an Obama character trait: he has not built many personal relationships with foreign leaders. “He's not good with personal relationships; that's not what interests him,” said one United States diplomat. “But in the Middle East, those relationships are essential. The lack of them deprives D.C. of the ability to influence leadership decisions.”

    A Lack of Chemistry

    Arab officials echo that sentiment, describing Mr. Obama as a cool, cerebral man who discounts the importance of personal chemistry in politics. “You can't fix these problems by remote control,” said one Arab diplomat with long experience in Washington. “He doesn't have friends who are world leaders. He doesn't believe in patting anybody on the back, nicknames.

    “You can't accomplish what you want to accomplish” with such an impersonal style, the diplomat said.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/us...anted=all&_r=1

    The article is revealing coming from the Slimes What it says is that Obama ignored “advice from elders on his staff at the State Department and at the Pentagon” in calling for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to step down.
    But by the time the Saudis were crushing democracy protests in Bahrain, Obama had changed his mind, and “largely turned a blind eye.”By the time the Tunisian protests broke out in January 2011 — an angry Mr. Obama accused his staff of being caught “flat-footed.”

    AND About that revolution in Iran that the President ignored ? “Months later, administration officials said, Mr. Obama expressed regret about his muted stance on Iran.”Yup ;where he could've made a significant contribution to the region ,he voted Present.
    “the stark difference between the outcomes in Cairo and Bahrain illustrates something else, too: his impatience with old-fashioned back-room diplomacy, and his corresponding failure to build close personal relationships with foreign leaders that can, especially in the Middle East, help the White House to influence decisions made abroad.”

    Step aside Obama... you've failed !
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    Sep 26, 2012, 11:15 AM
    Even if Mitt wins he will spend YOUR money like a drunk sailor the way the other republican did. You guys never learn though.
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    #73

    Sep 26, 2012, 11:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    It isn't an easy thing for Mitt to be the Great White Hope for the right wing. Or the 1%.
    He may not have been my first choice but I have no problem picturing him as president. What isn't an easy thing to see is another presidential election cycle where the 'adversarial' media is so deep in the tank for Obama that if he wins again it will be a complete sham on the American people.
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    #74

    Sep 26, 2012, 11:24 AM
    Being neo-conservative must presume a persecution complex.
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    #75

    Sep 26, 2012, 11:32 AM
    Being liberal means you must forgo any thinking process... and believe what your party tells you to believe... without question.
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    #76

    Sep 26, 2012, 11:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    the 'adversarial' media is so deep in the tank for Obama that if he wins again it will be a complete sham on the American people.
    What are we women and Latinos and blacks and young adults and gays/lesbians seeing in Obama that you are missing?
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    #77

    Sep 26, 2012, 11:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What are we women and Latinos and blacks and young adults and gays/lesbians seeing in Obama that you are missing?
    The question is what are they missing because the media is covering his a$$ instead of doing their job?
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    #78

    Sep 26, 2012, 11:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Being neo-conservative must presume a persecution complex.
    I wouldn't know, I deal in reality.
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    Sep 26, 2012, 11:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The question is what are they missing because the media is covering his a$$ instead of doing their job?
    Even Rush is frustrated. Fox News too.
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    Sep 26, 2012, 11:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Being liberal means you must forgo any thinking process.....and believe what your party tells you to believe...without question.
    We don't have to think too hard to realize the other party is full of it.

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