[talaniman]

DOJ didn't run away, they dealt with it when it came across their desk. Issa should have found out it was a local screw up before he laid blame and contempt. Holder never approved of fast and furious.

Change takes time when there is a lot to change and lets be fair, many don't want ANY change to begin with, good, or bad.

[cdad]

DOJ didn't run away, they dealt with it when it came across their desk. Issa should have found out it was a local screw up before he laid blame and contempt. Holder never approved of fast and furious.

Change takes time when there is a lot to change and lets be fair, many don't want ANY change to begin with, good, or bad.

I agree change takes time. And many don't wish change as it is seen as disruption.

On the other hand there are some things we will never agree upon.

http://www.examiner.com/article/doj-and-media-matters-coordinated-fast-and-furious-reports

[tomder55]

Hello smoothy:

No, I think he will.. It's true, the final poll has yet to be taken, but the ones I read today show Obama PULLING away. It's going to be a landslide. Of course, you'll deny it. You guys deny EVERYTHING.

excon

Sounds like OFA is denying...
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/...polls-were-win

[paraclete]

Polls tell you something, what the people polled are thinking or maybe just telling you to get rid of you. You have to see consistency week by week to read anything into it,

[excon]

Hello again,

In my reality, Obama is winning BIG... In the OTHER reality, they're tied... I wonder why there's TWO realities.

In MY reality, Romney had a very bad week.. In the OTHER reality, he's doing swell. How can that be?

I'm 47% sure Obama is going to win..

excon

[tomder55]

Romney had a bad week ? The WH cover story about the attack on Ambassador Stevens turned out to be a lie. His diary reveals he knew he was on a hit list . American Embassies attacked all over the ummah ;and the President called the assassination of an Ambassador ;and the continued attacks a "bump in the road " .
I'd say the President had a worse week .

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

What amazes me about you guys is that you think because we elected a black man, racism is a thing of the past... You think because he made a speech in Cairo, he SOLVED the Mid East issue...

When you find out your assumptions are WRONG, you blame the president... Silly Republicans.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Dude, we were the ones laughing at all the proclamations of a post racial era having finally arrived, that Muslims were going to love us and Obama would heal the planet. Talk about assumptions, Obama and his minions feed the racial fires, Muslims laugh at his weakness and we're going to have tons of toxic issues when all those Chevy Volts go home to die.

Silly liberals.

[paraclete]

You have got to stop dealing in absolutes. This is the problem, everyone is dealing with absolute positions. George Bush made the mistake of thinking the american system could be implemented in Iraq, never going to happen, so now they have a system that doesn't fit.. Right now some people are making mistakes about the way things should be. We all have to face reality, for example; no one is really going to do anything about climate change but it is a great talking point. Romney is going to put americans back to work, good luck with that, we are in a post GFC world, the game has changed and we all want it to be different, but it isn't.

I think Obama has done the right thing staying out of Libya and Syria, hard as it is, let the arabs sort it out for themselves

[tomder55]

Don't kid yourself.. 1st off our "lead from behind " in Libya was a major role .The effort to oust QDaffy would not have happened without a significant US contribution.
Now what is more troubling is that the doctrine of "responsibility to protect " that was employed in Libya is an doctrine fully embraced by the Obots ,and whether they admit it or not ;they fully plan to use it in Syria early next year .

[excon]

Now what is more troubling is that the doctrine of "responsibility to protect " that was employed in Libya is an doctrine fully embraced by the Obots ,and whether they admit it or not ;they fully plan to use it in Syria early next year .

Hello again, tom:

Wasn't it YOU who wanted MORE from Obama in Iran? But, when he gave more in Libya, it was a mistake?? You think John McCain is wrong to want us to intervene in Syria?? If we did, you think the Syrians will LIKE us?

Personally, I think we've done ENOUGH damage over there.. If it were me, I'd keep hands OFF while the dust settles... Like I said in another post, it would be GREAT if we could shape that area to our liking. But, we CAN'T. In fact, it COULD be said, that we TRIED that, and THAT'S the reason they HATE us..

Apology over.

excon

[tomder55]

Wasn't it YOU who wanted MORE from Obama in Iran?

correct . But I did not call for US military intervention. I wanted the President to openly support the opposition and to give non-military assistance to the movement .

You think John McCain is wrong to want us to intervene in Syria?? If we did, you think the Syrians will LIKE us?

Like Libya ,we have no idea who the rebels are .

, I'd keep hands OFF while the dust settles...

In the case of Syria ;I fully agree . But I guarantee that the Obots want to intervene (especially Ambassador Rice, Evita , Power, Jarrett, Brennan).

[paraclete]

Around and around and around we go and where we will come out nobody knows. I agree with Ex keep your hands off and your noses out and you may win some friends

[tomder55]

I'll ask the people of East Timor if they tought it a good idea for Aussie soldiers to be deployed there more than a decade .

[paraclete]

Some people have a short memory, Tom, we will leave any time they want us to go, we didn't conquer the place we are there to deter Indonesia in the same way you are in Germany to deter Russia and we are there as part of a UN response, a little detail that escaped ypu in Iraq

We both share the infortunate experience of Afghanistan and the sooner we leave the better

[speechlesstx]

Obama must think running for president is hard, too. He had to appear on The View, lie about whose fault the current deficit is on 60 Minutes, lie to the UN about why Muslims are mad at us and take time out to meet with foreign leaders. Oh wait, he didn't meet with anyone did he?

"Look, if he met with one leader, he would have to meet with 10," and "in this election year, campaigning trumped meetings with world leaders."

Campaigning always trumps everything with Obama, who needs a leader when we can have a campaigner-in-chief? Actually being president is just one of those "bumps in the road" to reelection.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I too, think the present deficit is the result of the Bush administration... Now, you may not AGREE with me, but I don't think you'd call me a liar. So, can we stop the inflammatory rhetoric?

(Snicker, snicker) Ok, we're not going to do that. I just think you're really depressed because Romney is going to LOSE bigtime, and Paul Ryan will NEVER be president. Plus, you're going to lose your next game...

excon

[NeedKarma]

Yep, all this manufactured outrage will not stop the fact that Romney won't see the presidency. He has as much chance of winning as he has of opening a window on a plane :D.

Funny how the right never speaks of the good policies that Romney brings to the table.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

I too, think the present deficit is the result of the Bush administration... Now, you may not AGREE with me, but I don't think you'd call me a liar. So, can we stop the inflammatory rhetoric?

(Snicker, snicker) Ok, we're not gonna do that. I just think you're really depressed because Romney is gonna LOSE bigtime, and Paul Ryan will NEVER be president. Plus, you're gonna lose your next game...

excon

Dude, WaPo gave him all Pinocchios on the deficit thing. But excuse me if I'm not moved by the "inflammatory rhetoric" ruse. I read what your side says and I know calling Republicans liars is cool, you're still doing it regularly. Obama is a liar, a "supremely skilled liar" were my words I believe. As long as he keeps doing it I'm sticking to it.

[speechlesstx]

Yep, all this manufactured outrage will not stop the fact that Romney won't see the presidency. He has as much chance of winning as he has of opening a window on a plane :D.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows

You really shouldn't believe everything you read.