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    Sep 18, 2012, 12:44 AM
    Conservatives are dumb
    Yes sir, Romney just set out to prove that
    Hidden camera catches Romney's real thoughts on the other 47 per cent
    If you have no respect for the voters you can't expect them to vote for you, so what he is about is populist politics just playing to the 5% who might be swinging, or undecided.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 01:58 AM
    This coming from the guy who established socialized healthcare in his own state. These guys are self-destructing.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 04:40 AM
    Maybe we should ask the' bitter clingers' .
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    Sep 18, 2012, 04:45 AM
    Try whatever tactic you feel would work.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 04:51 AM
    Ask whoever you like Tom, it doesn't matter because the candidate is imploding
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    Sep 18, 2012, 05:18 AM
    The point being that both candidates have been caught making off the cuff comments when they assumed they weren't being recorded . Romney over-reacted holding a press conference . He should've said ;yeah I said it... so ? He's not wrong . The Dems have that built in constituency ,and he is not wrong about the expanding numbers of people becoming permanent members of the entitlement culture . Over 100 million Americans receive some form of federal welfare benefits, millions have gone on Social Security disability ,and that number has increased dramatically since 2008, and many millions more living on entitlement programs .With the baby boomer generation beginning to retire ,and fewer workers per beneficiary to pay for it ;we are close to the point of no return (if we haven't already crossed the Rubicon) .

    This of course is fodder for the Ivy League bred egg heads that Santorum mentioned . Their idea of charity is to make laws that forces others to pay for their sense of rightiousness while they keep the poor at arms length.

    But where Romney is not right is the extent of the problem. There are many more people who will shout "hands off my.... (name the government program) " ;including Republics and the affluent. We have become a nation of rent-seekers and that will be our doom.

    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."Alexis de Tocqueville
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    Sep 18, 2012, 07:37 AM
    We have become a nation of rent-seekers and that will be our doom
    Surely you are not yet comtemplating your doom Tom, how unamerican of you
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    Sep 18, 2012, 07:39 AM
    If they took your house and job, you would be a rent seeker too!
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    Sep 18, 2012, 07:49 AM
    Tom that may be true but they can't take my house and my job, these things are not up to them. In my lifetime Tom I have known periods of unemployment, which made me focus on the essentials
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    Sep 18, 2012, 07:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    If they took your house and job, you would be a rent seeker too!
    You should look up what rent-seeker means.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 07:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you should look up what rent-seeker means.
    Code word?
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    Sep 18, 2012, 08:03 AM
    No there is a definition... really there is...
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    Sep 18, 2012, 08:19 AM
    He's 100% correct, Obama is campaigning on it. Just ask Julia.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 10:28 AM
    I would also add that in addition to being right, Romney is the kind of guy that takes personal responsibility for helping those in need instead of pushing them off on others.

    Mitt Romney, Friend in Need


    I'd take a guy who'll grab the shovel himself over the guy who leads from behind any day.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 10:38 AM
    Romney’s tax returns show that he donated over $7 million in 2010-2011 alone, over 16% of his income
    Holy crap I wish I were that rich all my life.

    Here's where he grew up: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A nice life if you can get it. Never ever having to worry about money.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 11:51 AM
    Naturally you choose once again to distract from the point. Leave to you and the lefties here to distract and demonize a guy who gave away his inheritance, took no salary as governor, gives millions to charity and rolls up his sleeves and digs in personally when someone is in need.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 12:17 PM
    It is a nice photo op, no doubt. But let's see if he can recover from his blunders.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 01:30 PM
    Unfortunately for him the media isn't carrying his water or it would already be Romney in a landslide. We have troops dying in Afghanistan at the hands of their "allies," the government is spending a trillion dollars more per year than 5 years ago, 12.5 million unemployed including 5.5 million women and gas is nearing $4.00 a gallon compared to about $1.80 when Obama took over. Instead, this administration actually coordinates with media types.

    Emails reveal Justice Dept. regularly enlists Media Matters to spin press

    Again I ask, how is the public being served with nothing but distractions and phony narratives being served up?
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    Sep 18, 2012, 01:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I would also add that in addition to being right, Romney is the kind of guy that takes personal responsibility for helping those in need instead of pushing them off on others.

    Mitt Romney, Friend in Need


    I'd take a guy who'll grab the shovel himself over the guy who leads from behind any day.
    I had heard of the last 2 examples . This just proves that these are not the 'photo ops ' that NK claims they are . He has a life time worth of good works ,and he is not the heartless, out-of-touch CEO who likes to fire people that the Obots define him as ;and his campaign staff let then get away with.
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    Sep 18, 2012, 03:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you should look up what rent-seeker means.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_seeking

    I know what you meant but obviously my smart alleck remark went over your head.

    I have been saying Romney is a plutocrat who wants/does extracts wealth through writing the rules to make it legal for along time. He still wants a tax cut for himself that enhances what he already has by removing aid to those that need it because his charity work is all the safety net those lazy irresponsible 47% deserve.

    We have already discussed that 47%, mostly old people and children, and the working poor. Its condenscending to categorize these people as lazy takers and elevating himself as a maker. The HAVES talking about the HAVE NOTS. Redistribute the wealth to the ones that deserve it!

    Go ahead hold the door while the crooks get away with the loot.

    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Unfortunately for him the media isn't carrying his water or it would already be Romney in a landslide. We have troops dying in Afghanistan at the hands of their "allies," the government is spending a trillion dollars more per year than 5 years ago, 12.5 million unemployed including 5.5 million women and gas is nearing $4.00 a gallon compared to about $1.80 when Obama took over. Instead, this administration actually coordinates with media types.

    Emails reveal Justice Dept. regularly enlists Media Matters to spin press

    Again I ask, how is the public being served with nothing but distractions and phony narratives being served up?
    If you listen to him he admits that trickle down economics doesn't work for those that have no money, so he discounts them, and that's evident in that he has been dancing around all day defending his own words as more and more of his words keep coming out.

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